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| Quote ="Standee"Yup, it amazes me the mediocrity that people will stand for, and how ready they are to make excuses for other people inability.
How far into next season do we give Agar then, 6 games, 12...?'"
I believe we will have to endure at least half of next season with Agar in charge before he is shown the door !!
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"I believe we will have to endure at least half of next season with Agar in charge before he is shown the door !!
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And then it will be too late to do anything to rescue yet another wasted season, which means we'll have wasted 3 on him!
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| Quote ="Standee"And then it will be too late to do anything to rescue yet another wasted season, which means we'll have wasted 3 on him!'"
I wouldnt be surprised if they gave him the whole season.
We will have wasted our time watching yes, but the club wont have wasted anything as the new signings will have already dragged season passes back up along with shirt sales etc so their money is already in the bag for another season.
The season after that will be a new coach,new beginning and again we will all jump on board the spin machine !!!
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"I wouldnt be surprised if they gave him the whole season.
We will have wasted our time watching yes, but the club wont have wasted anything as the new signings will have already dragged season passes back up along with shirt sales etc so their money is already in the bag for another season.
The season after that will be a new coach,new beginning and again we will all jump on board the spin machine !!!'"
I think the club are going to get a shock when it comes to pass renewals, they've taken the out of the fans now, if agar stays in charge then I think renewalsm will be down 20%.
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| Quote ="Standee"I think the club are going to get a shock when it comes to pass renewals, they've taken the mickey out of the fans now, if agar stays in charge then I think renewalsm will be down 20%.'"
wouldn't suprise me if they put passes up by 10 - 15% which will negate the fall in sales . esp with match day prices proibably going up.
Hope its not the case though
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| Quote ="geronimo"wouldn't suprise me if they put passes up by 10 - 15% which will negate the fall in sales . esp with match day prices proibably going up.
Hope its not the case though'"
Which further reduce the number of renewals, I may just about renew my pass for next season, however given the served up over the last few seasons if were they put up the price for next season then that for me would be final nail in the coffin for renewing.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Which further reduce the number of renewals, I may just about renew my pass for next season, however given the poop served up over the last few seasons if were they put up the price for next season then that for me would be final nail in the coffin for renewing.'"
I bet when push comes to shove with all the closed season build up of how well the new team and 'gelling' together and up for a new season there will be very few who dont renew in fact IMO there will probably be an increase.
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"I wouldnt be surprised if they gave him the whole season.
We will have wasted our time watching yes, but the club wont have wasted anything as the new signings will have already dragged season passes back up along with shirt sales etc so their money is already in the bag for another season.
The season after that will be a new coach,new beginning and again we will all jump on board the spin machine !!!'"
I think the board and team will stand in formation so that from above they represent the outline of a small edam cheese, execute every fourth person in Anlaby, paint themselves yellow and sing ging gang goolie whilst hopping on one leg, nodding their heads back and forth with their large pointy blue hats with bells on the end ringing out the tune to Neighbours.
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| Quote ="geronimo"wouldn't suprise me if they put passes up by 10 - 15% which will negate the fall in sales . esp with match day prices proibably going up.
Hope its not the case though'"
Well, on the one hand there hasn't been an increase for a year or two, so they could justify an inflationary rise, but on the other we are in a downturn (I refuse to call it a recession, there were plenty of brand new TV's being loaded up when I was in Chesterfield yesterday!).
No doubt they'll do it in such a cack handed way that even a positive move will look bad.
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| Quote ="downtheante"I think the board and team will stand in formation so that from above they represent the outline of a small edam cheese, execute every fourth person in Anlaby, paint themselves yellow and sing ging gang goolie whilst hopping on one leg, nodding their heads back and forth with their large pointy blue hats with bells on the end ringing out the tune to Neighbours.'"
Do you know how much organisation, teamwork and effort that would take? They can’t work out how to ship the ball to a kicker on the last tackle FFS
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| Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"Do you know how much organisation, teamwork and effort that would take? They can’t work out how to ship the ball to a kicker on the last tackle FFS'"
No - if you remember - when they do anything well it's nothing to do with Agar - it's off the cuff.
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| Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"Do you know how much organisation, teamwork and effort that would take? They can’t work out how to ship the ball to a kicker on the last tackle FFS'"
But nice answer...
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"[url=http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sport/wolves/wolvesnews/4501766.Smith_bemoans_basic_errors/?ref=rssExactly what that Smith bloke is wondering this week (you know the one we'd have here in a 'heartbeat' who has a much better squad than us).[/url'"
I suspect he's probably more worried about his CC semi in a couple of weeks
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| Quote ="Kosh"I had us pegged as finishing 7-9 before the season even started. That assumed Crocker would arrive and we wouldn't get an injury crisis. I haven't seen anything to convince me that we would do any better than that even with a moderately gifted coach.
Without Carvell our pack has no go-forward, so we're always playing on the back foot. He was an absolutely crucial member of the squad, reflected in the efforts we went to to keep him. His absence was always going to be massive. On top of that we have no halfbacks to speak of. You say we hardly saw Dykes, and that's correct. No coincidence then that we only ever performed when we [idid[/i see him. Thorman is worse than Dykes playing the odd game, as he's crap all the time. And Horne might as well be injured again for all the impact he's having.
There is absolutely no way that this squad is anywhere near competing with 3rd place.
Wakey have had some disasters this season, but have a pack with more go-forward and more creativity in the halves. This, coupled with an excellent team spirit and Kear's knack of getting teams to play better than the sum of their parts, is what's got them where they are.
I'm not suggesting that Agar shouldn't have done better. In fact I've specifically stated that he should. But some people are massively overestimating the potential of our current squad IMO.'"
What sort of coach plays 5 drives and a kick with a weak pack and no decent kickers in the team?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"What sort of coach plays 5 drives and a kick with a weak pack and no decent kickers in the team?'"
What do you want them to do? Throw the ball around in our own 20 minutes on the first tackle? Our team is crap. The kicker is poor so when he kicks it straight down the throat of the opposition and he gets to the 40 metre line then it just allows them to drive it up and put us right on our line thus putting pressure on us to get out of our own half with the props who are also poor. That coupled with our awful ball retention and it's no wonder we are where we are.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"What do you want them to do? Throw the ball around in our own 20 minutes on the first tackle? Our team is crap. The kicker is poor so when he kicks it straight down the throat of the opposition and he gets to the 40 metre line then it just allows them to drive it up and put us right on our line thus putting pressure on us to get out of our own half with the props who are also poor. That coupled with our awful ball retention and it's no wonder we are where we are.'"
Try something different from what clearly does not work. Even if it fails, at least it's different.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Try.'"
Removed the extra words that were not needed
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| Quote ="chico's nose"Removed the extra words that were not needed
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Can't argue with that!
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| Quote ="hull smallears"icon_lol.gif Can't argue with that!'"
But they weren't Agar's words, he'll be much more engaging once he starts using his own sentences!!!!
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| Quote ="hull smallears"icon_lol.gif Can't argue with that!'"
I suppose what has been lost by Agar’s little dummy spiting and some of the players feeling sorry for themselves, is why fans actually clapped Celtic the other night.
I, and all the fans I have spoken to don’t expect the team to win every game, and we realise that we may lose a fair few, but as long as we can see that the effort is been put in, the vast majority of us would be happy. The fact is, for the last 18 months this has not been the case. Friday night’s little episode was the fans finally seizing the opportunity to inform the players and coaching staff that the current lack of effort is not acceptable and will jot be tolerated.
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| Quote ="chico's nose"I suppose what has been lost by Agar’s little dummy spiting and some of the players feeling sorry for themselves, is why fans actually clapped Celtic the other night.
I, and all the fans I have spoken to don’t expect the team to win every game, and we realise that we may lose a fair few, but as long as we can see that the effort is been put in, the vast majority of us would be happy. The fact is, for the last 18 months this has not been the case. Friday night’s little episode was the fans finally seizing the opportunity to inform the players and coaching staff that the current lack of effort is not acceptable and will jot be tolerated.'"
Yes it was. As was Castleford. The problem being is that the players are fully aware the next paycheck is there come what may.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Yes it was. As was Castleford. The problem being is that the players are fully aware the next paycheck is there come what may.'"
Yup,
Nail on the head smallears, people who say win bonuses are bad seem to forget that paycheck regardless is even worse.
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| Quote ="Standee"Yup,
Nail on the head smallears, people who say win bonuses are bad seem to forget that paycheck regardless is even worse.'"
Yes, I think it would certainly help in our situation!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I suspect he's probably more worried about his CC semi in a couple of weeks'"
No doubt - if his players spill the ball like they did this weekend then he should be worried. Was it their fault or his do you think ?
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