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| Quote ="Standee"I said almost'"
No, you didn't.
Quote ="Standee"I'd rather shop and eat in Beverley than Hull, maybe you should try it?'"
Should I?
I shop & eat mostly in Leeds, thanks, that's where I live.
Spouting rubbish as usual. Why do you bother?
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| Quote ="Standee"=#0000FFI said almost,'"
Where?
Quote ="Standee"York and Beverley are within 40 miles and are better for everything.'"
Quote ="Standee"I'd rather shop and eat in Beverley than Hull, maybe you should try it?'"
Shopping in Beverley is appalling. Mostly, the food is no better than plenty of places in Hull, either. There are some decent places in some of the other villages, though.
Seriously, you'd be better off admitting you were wrong about the Beverley comment rather than keep trying to defend it, Beverley is now largely a suburb of Hull with overpriced houses and not much else. The only things that are far nicer than it's Hull counterparts are it's registry office and the market.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Where?
Shopping in Beverley is appalling. Mostly, the food is no better than plenty of places in Hull, either. There are some decent places in some of the other villages, though.
Seriously, you'd be better off admitting you were wrong about the Beverley comment rather than keep trying to defend it, Beverley is now largely a suburb of Hull with overpriced houses and not much else. The only things that are far nicer than it's Hull counterparts are it's registry office and the market.'"
depends what you want to eat and buy, anyway, contracts.........................
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| Quote ="Standee"I said almost, I'd rather shop and eat in Beverley than Hull, maybe you should try it?'"
Shopping in Beverley?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Shopping in Beverley?
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as I said, depends what you want, I haven't found arival to Rileys anywhere in Hull, maybe DIAS in Hessle.
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| Quote ="Standee"as I said, depends what you want, I haven't found arival to Rileys anywhere in Hull, maybe DIAS in Hessle.'"
I haven't found a musical instrument shop to rival Bad Dog's in Hull in Meadowhall, doesn't mean that Hull is a better shopping destination than Meadowhall.
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| Quote ="Standee"as I said, depends what you want, I haven't found arival to Rileys anywhere in Hull, maybe DIAS in Hessle.'"
Primark suits me just right , cotton is cotton to me regardless of what shiite is written on the left tit of a T Shirt
Thought you lived out of town dont you ???
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I haven't found a musical instrument shop to rival Bad Dog's in Hull in Meadowhall, doesn't mean that Hull is a better shopping destination than Meadowhall.'"
it says Daz on the side of busses but they dont do your washing on board
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| anyway, i am quite proud of the city of my birth to be honest, i find the majority of folk to be good honest yorkshire folk , we have bad areas like anywhere else but on the whole its a decent hard working city IMO.
I have lived all over the planet and always look forward to coming back to Hull.....sometimes when you move away the honeymoon period of another place sweeps you off your feet but after a while it becomes just another place to live sometimes with sun and sometimes without , I lived within 20mins drive of Key Largo for 3 years but it had plenty of down sides too like anywhere....
on the whole i have always been proud to say i was from East Yorkshire!!!! and amazing how many guys on marine jobs you meet that are from Hull or Goole etc
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| Quote ="Standee"as I said, depends what you want, I haven't found arival to Rileys anywhere in Hull, maybe DIAS in Hessle.'"
You realise the people who live in Beverley tend to go elsewhere for shopping don't you? With Hull being the most convienient of places in terms of distance. Picking out a single shop means nothing.
Your right that though it does depend what you want. Personally being in close proximity to Riley's wouldn't make me live in Beverley. My time is far more precious to me so the things I have to do (work) and the things I enjoy doing (the rugby for example) all need to be as close as possible. Commuting is for mugs IMO. I'd rather earn less money and have more time to live my life. Things like "shopping" are occasional activities and I can take it or leave it but it's no hardship to drive to York, Leeds, Sheffield or even Manchester if I really want to spend the day shopping but it sure as hell wont determine where I choose to live. Night life is the same. What makes a good night out for me is who you spend it with not waiting 30 mins to get served an ordinary beer in an overpriced crowded "bar". The biggest deciding factor for me is minimising the amount of time I'm wasting getting to and from the things I have to or want to do. With that in mind I don't know how many Rugby players would have "travel time to the shops" as a high priority when choosing a club.
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| Quote ="voodooroo"anyway, i am quite proud of the city of my birth to be honest, i find the majority of folk to be good honest yorkshire folk , we have bad areas like anywhere else but on the whole its a decent hard working city IMO.
=#0000FFI have lived all over the planet and always look forward to coming back to Hull.....sometimes when you move away the honeymoon period of another place sweeps you off your feet but after a while it becomes just another place to live sometimes with sun and sometimes without , I lived within 20mins drive of Key Largo for 3 years but it had plenty of down sides too like anywhere....
on the whole i have always been proud to say i was from East Yorkshire!!!! and amazing how many guys on marine jobs you meet that are from Hull or Goole etc'"
Which one, ours or yours?
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| Quote ="Isaiah"So Ellis was a mug to come to Hull?'"
Not quite what I meant actually.If Ellis is happy with his deal then fair enough.
All I am saying is if somebody is offered better money,nobody could blame them for taking it.
Maybe Ellis is looking at the bigger picture?
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| Some of you should try living in some real [is[/ihitholes, like Yeovil or Stoke, Rotherham or Middlesborough.
When I lived in Cott I did most of my shopping in the village, simply because I spent most of me money in Tiger
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| Shall we get back on topic?
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| Quote ="Baboon"Shall we get back on topic?'"
It's a dead topic, the blatantly obvious answer was provided in the first reply.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Some of you should try living in some real [is[/ihitholes, like Yeovil or Stoke, Rotherham or Middlesborough.
When I lived in Cott I did most of my shopping in the village, simply because I spent most of me money in Tiger'"
Sorry, I must've missed the announcement when Middlesbrough got upgraded to a hole
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| Whenever I come back to Hull I always shop at James Wrights.
What's this thread about?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Whenever I come back to Hull I always shop at James Wrights.
=#0000FFWhat's this thread about?'"
Somebody was trying to understand why players are willing to sign long-term contracts with the most succesful SL team of the last 5 years. I presume their threads asking about the defecatory arrangements of sharks and bears were deleted for being too far off topic.
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| Yes it was about why people sign for the most successfull superleague team of the last 5 years. But it was trying to ask peoples opinions on whether that was the only reason or whether money and location came into it and whether we could compete with leeds in the future with signing players and if not then could anything be done about it to improve our player retention and signings from elsewhere
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| Quote ="Chet. U. Betcha"Yes it was about why people sign for the most successfull superleague team of the last 5 years. But it was trying to ask peoples opinions on whether that was the only reason or whether money and location came into it and whether we could compete with leeds in the future with signing players and if not then could anything be done about it to improve our player retention and signings from elsewhere'"
By and large, players will decide where to play based upon 3 things:
1, Chance of trophies
2, Money
3, The coach
Location and club loyalty are further down the list. The number one thing we need to do to compete with the likes of Leeds for players is to show we can compete with them for trophies, it really is as simple as that.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"By and large, players will decide where to play based upon 3 things:
1, Chance of trophies
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3, The coach
Location and club loyalty are further down the list. The number one thing we need to do to compete with the likes of Leeds for players is to show we can compete with them for trophies, it really is as simple as that.'"
Not all players value the same thing. Depending on the stage of their career, their ability, etc. they may value things completely differently. First team action for example. Where do you think Matt Diskin was more likely to win trophies? Bradford or Leeds?
Location can be a big factor, especially to overseas recruits who are making a lifestyle change. Apparently Hull City struggled to sign decent players because of the area (not the only reason obviously). London Broncos is a similar reason (distance for many, plus the expense of living in the area), although it can also be attractive for some British players to change lifestyle without going too far.
Glad we can remember what the thread was actually about though. I still find it amusing reading Standee digging further with his comments, such as "I said almost everything" (no you didn't) and basically there are a couple of shops in Beverley that he likes, do that makes shopping overall better in Beverley! Brilliant!
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Not all players value the same thing. Depending on the stage of their career, their ability, etc. they may value things completely differently. First team action for example. Where do you think Matt Diskin was more likely to win trophies? Bradford or Leeds?
Location can be a big factor, especially to overseas recruits who are making a lifestyle change. Apparently Hull City struggled to sign decent players because of the area (not the only reason obviously). London Broncos is a similar reason (distance for many, plus the expense of living in the area), although it can also be attractive for some British players to change lifestyle without going too far.
Glad we can remember what the thread was actually about though. I still find it amusing reading Standee digging further with his comments, such as "I said almost everything" (no you didn't) and basically there are a couple of shops in Beverley that he likes, do that makes shopping overall better in Beverley! Brilliant!'"
I agree there are other factors, as you say there's game time, and there's always some players who are genuine fans of a team and therefore don't want to play for another team. I still think it mainly boils down to the 3 factors I listed, though, and definitely in the specific case of long term contracts. I don't see any player committing to 5 years if he's in search of first team rugby, as it is surely a big gamble to think he'd be guaranteed his place for the duration of the contract, there are bound to be other players coming in during that time.
Whilst location does have an influence, I don't think it's as major as people might think in most cases, unless you're talking about London or Catalan. Football is also an entirely different case for 2 reasons: Firstly, there are literally teams all over the whole country, not just in 3 pockets across the M62 and a few other outposts, so players have far more choice and much more varied options; and secondly, there is a genuine transfer market, so the long-term commitment aspect is all but taken out of the equation.
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| losing players to a team like leeds/wigan/warrington may be explained by their recent successes but doesnt explain why players defect to the perenial bridesmaids saints.
agree with those saying hull(the city) isnt a big attraction.im born n bred here and think we the residents are quiet inward looking and although friendly we are difficult to please.couple this with our location at the end of the road and barring a few attractions its not the most entertaining of cities.
all that said if a player does do well here and is loyal he will be a given hero status second to none
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| Quote ="Eddie Marks"losing players to a team like leeds/wigan/warrington may be explained by their recent successes but doesnt explain why players defect to the perenial bridesmaids saints.
agree with those saying hull(the city) isnt a big attraction.im born n bred here and think we the residents are quiet inward looking and although friendly we are difficult to please.couple this with our location at the end of the road and barring a few attractions its not the most entertaining of cities.
all that said if a player does do well here and is loyal he will be a given hero status second to none'"
Wigan have had a great couple of seasons and Warrington a couple of cup wins, over the course of SL Saints' record trumps both. We've won 1 trophy. It explains it very well to me.
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