Lots of sports teams do indeed offer financial incentives but before saying people dont have a clue i think you need to read some motivational theory such as Herzberg or Maslow around a hierarchy of needs. Herzberg actually makes a pretty good arguement that money doesnt motivate people but a lack of money can de-motivate.

My own personal view is that extra incentives should never be used as motivation, basic salary and pride in a job should be enough to motivate someone, if not get rid of them.

I can guarantee 99% of these people would increase output for more wonga. Most however would probably be happy where they are

Not sure how you would guarentee that!!



FWIW if people arent performing for their basic salary they need getting rid of and replacing with someone that will.

I wouldn't disagree, however as Standee has eluded to, not that easy in sport.

Please educate us Mr Motivator!!!!

Why do professionals need to be driven by money all the time, when you listen to all the great sports stars in the world prestige is one thing that always come through.

Agree not that easy in sport, however there are different ways of motivating people other than financially. I do agree that in sport people should get win bonuses etc but this should not be for motivational purposes, its more for recruitment purposes to be competetive imo.

Usually the one's who have enough money in the bank to afford such high ideals. Dave, I am aware of plenty of the theories of management and motiviation and agree that money should not be a sole incentive to succeed, I am also, however, acutely aware of the wider business world where bonus is king.

Never would I have thunk to see Maslow and Hertzberg referenced on an RL forum.

Ok, so youre aware that bonuses are generally not contractual elements of a contract that could often be changed or removed without notice and that actually a hell of a lot of organisations in the 'business world' dont actually offer bonuses and more and more are moving away from them and replacing them with things such as flexible benefits where you can buy more days holidays or cheaper child care etc. Not of these benefits are performance related.

I am well aware that money is the new god and people become fixated with the grotesque amounts that has found its way into sport. As all young sports people start off in life all they dream about is lifting trophies and been the best in their own field.Its the greed of everyone else around sport that has upped the anti, sponsers, players agents and the media.

don't the SL rules state a win bonus can only be a few hundred £ anyway? I'm sure they used to?...which isn't a lot relative to what the top earners in SL make anyway

If being a well paid pro RL player is not enough then I would rather they went elsewhere. As far as I know we do have bonuses for winning the CC or GF so there is some incentive there.

Win bonuses of any significant amount would be difficult to manage under the SC structure. In order to ensure no breach, you would have to structure your wages and bonuses on the assumption that you would win all games and both finals. Falling significantly short of that would leave you with a substantial amount of cap unspent that could have been used productively.

As far as the more general point is concerned, I've worked on commission and flat salary, the latter with and without a bonus. I can honestly say that I've done my job to the best of my ability regardless. I know other people who have worked harder if it meant a bonus or more commission. Different people are motivated by different things.

In this regard, I imagine that sportsmen and women will show a similar variation. Some will be motivated purely by financial rewards, others by a mixture that will include prestige, pride, and a simple desire to be the best they can be. Although given the nature of sport I would expect the distribution to be skewed somewhat towards the non-monetary motivations.

I work harder to get more salary.

It's an incentive yeah, but it's not a performance based incentive really, I work hard, my salary goes up.

It's the same with Rugby Players... Richard Horne plays better, he gets a contract renewal on more money.

and Hull are quite strict with their 'internationals get more' salary structure anyway, so if the players impress their national coach their next FC should therefore be bigger anyway

It's the same at any place of work though.

You do your own work and get paid the same every year. You, not necessarily brown nose, but work for your Manager a bit more and you get paid more if you impress.

A survey a few years back of hundreds of big businesses around the country found that working conditions and been valued/respected as an employee were higher up than having a slight increase in pay. This wasn't just high paid types but a wide range of jobs & pay levels.
Given the recession at the moment that may not be as true today but motivating employees to perform better (or not drop below a level) is not easy to do. It is as much a mental thing as physical for sportsperson, if your not right mentally you can have all the ability & physical attributes required to be at the top of your sport(as well as money incentives) but you wont perform anywhere near your maximum potential.

I totally agree with the performance related pay argument, I would be surprised if Leeds and Saints weren't on win bonuses.

Now people are probably going to disagree with me and say I'm crazy but something I have always thought would be worth looking at is fining players a small fee when they make the sort of errors that make a coach scream. Such as a penalty on the fifth tackle. You would never get it into contracts and it would have to be something the players agreed to do. The money could go into a kitty for the club charity or something along those lines.

Exactly... mind I think the players of both Hull clubs enjoy the level of support afforded to them at away games

professional pride.....the shirt.......and another contract should be more than enough incentive.

I'd deffo disagree with that, you cant penalise employees for mistakes that aren't deliberate & unplanned. It's impossible to guarantee any player not making a mistake at any given time in a match. Penalising them for things like that is a massive demotivator & as you said no players would want to play for the club as any contract with that in would be laughed at.
I do hope you aren't an employer

if they win 30 games in a row why would you wanna spend any money on players surely that squad seems good enough

No offence but if your a player on 100k + a year - who gives a f00k about a possible £100 win bonus??? Its like offering David Beckham - £50 a goal. He earns that the first minute he plays. Maybe international recognition bonuses for non internationals and cup bonuses but not to win a league match. I don't get a 'clocking on' bonus - or a 'less than 2 dumps on overtime' bonus at my work!!!

Spot on.