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| Quote ="Chris28"10 incidents in one game says to me the ref didn't have any control.'"
Looks that way. I also can't see the incident called there that was on SLTV showing Whiting getting punched at the PTB by their number 13.
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"So Long faces 3-5 matches if found guilty and Jon Wells is one of the people on the panel!'"
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| Quote ="airliebird58"Exactly right Staffs FC, and isn't the focus of this thread about Referee Childs performance? I'm wondering if some of the people commenting on this thread actually went to the game? The crowd was in uproar and I find it entirely understandable that both Agar and Kath commented on said performance. As an aside, Kath is never going to criticise any team performance in public, and rightly so IMO.
We're all not happy how things have gone this season. But it would be nice to have the odd thread that wasn't hijacked by the rabid 'Agar Out' mob. You're ruining any debate on this board.'"
I guess some people just think that worrying about the ref when you've got Agar in charge is like moaning about getting a pimple when you've got leprosy.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"I guess some people just think that worrying about the ref when you've got Agar in charge is like moaning about getting a pimple when you've got leprosy.'"
I believe the title of the thread is Childs not Agar.
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"I believe the title of the thread is Childs not Agar.
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Garry turns every thread into an Agar one
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"I made the mistake of thinking he was talking about the Refs performance on a thread about the Refs performance. Boy, do I feel foolish now.'"
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"I believe the title of the thread is Childs not Agar.
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The clue is in the post I quoted lads, do keep up.
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| Will someone smack brindley in the gob for me PLEASE.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"It's a fair point I just think that the level of anger towards the official from people attending on Friday was more or less unanimous and that was the main issue - the club officials were simply echoing that feeling. Child is hardly a stranger to controversy with his 'brand' of officiating across the game. His performance was disgraceful. In the other games you mention you might well take the view that Hull's performance was disgraceful and she should have lambasted the team/coach on each occasion but I doubt that will ever happen even if/when Agar is sacked during the week following a game. The focus on Friday was 100% the referee and the comments that followed reflected most people's opinion on that.'"
I'm not saying that childs wasn't shiit, because he was. He may even have been the reason we didn't win the game. What I'm saying is that kath's outburst is a result of the pressure she is obviously feeling rather than the fact that the referee was useless. There will have been dozens of instances in her 10 + years at the club where the referee's performance has been cr4p but she hasn't exploded at it
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Wasn't just her that reacted though was it. The fans almost unanimously, Fitzgibbon and Matterson.
There is pressure at the club no doubt but the refereeing display was that bad to warrant the outbursts imo.'"
She wouldn't have said anything if we'd sneaked a try at the end and won. Wouldn't have changed the refs performance one iota but she wouldn't have reacted
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm not saying that childs wasn't shiit, because he was. He may even have been the reason we didn't win the game. What I'm saying is that [ukath's outburst is a result of the pressure she is obviously feeling[/u rather than the fact that the referee was useless. There will have been dozens of instances in her 10 + years at the club where the referee's performance has been cr4p but she hasn't exploded at it'"
So this is a positive thing, then, wouldn't you agree? Some indirect recognition that things aren't right?
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"I made the mistake of thinking he was talking about the Refs performance on a thread about the Refs performance. Boy, do I feel foolish now.'"
Not as foolish as you look
Context dear boy, context
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"So this is a positive thing, then, wouldn't you agree? Some indirect recognition that things aren't right?'"
That's what I've been saying. Her's and agar's outbursts are down to the pressure they are both under. People who are saying they're representing the fans etc. are just plain wrong
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"She wouldn't have said anything if we'd sneaked a try at the end and won. Wouldn't have changed the refs performance one iota but she wouldn't have reacted'"
Well we don't know that, you are just guessing. Either way I am glad she spoke up as it demonstrates she cares and if it was all down to pressure then that means the Agar out question is being thought about.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"That's what I've been saying. Her's and agar's outbursts are down to the pressure they are both under. People who are saying they're representing the fans etc. are just plain wrong'"
You don't think her reasons are any more calculating than that then? Agar I can accept was just anger, but with our clubs reputation for spin I can see her realising it was a good opportunity to take some heat off him and buy more time. On her radio interview she seemed pretty composed for someone who was having an 'outburst'.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"You don't think her reasons are any more calculating than that then? Agar I can accept was just anger, but with our clubs reputation for spin I can see her realising it was a good opportunity to take some heat off him and buy more time. On her radio interview she seemed pretty composed for someone who was having an 'outburst'.'"
You seriously think that as soon as the whistle went she thought 'right now is my chance to take some heat off the Rich'.....
More likely she was as furious as the rest of the crowd and combined with the general pressure around the club just got wound up and spoke out.
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| To be fair, she'd spoken to David Burns off mic, he asked if she was prepared to repeat the comments on air and she did.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"icon_lol.gif
You seriously think that as soon as the whistle went she thought 'right now is my chance to take some heat off the Rich'.....
More likely she was as furious as the rest of the crowd and combined with the general pressure around the club just got wound up and spoke out.'"
It's like what Kosh was saying the other day about when you have big problems at home an external enemy can be extremely handy.
If you want to take everything she does at face value, then with our clubs track record on spin and media manipulation, more fool you.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"It's like what Kosh was saying the other day about when you have big problems at home an external enemy can be extremely handy.
If you want to take everything she does at face value, then with our clubs track record on spin and media manipulation, more fool you.'"
Well it's much more believable than your conspiracy theory but it's a pointless argument as we will never know.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"You don't think her reasons are any more calculating than that then? Agar I can accept was just anger, but with our clubs reputation for spin I can see her realising it was a good opportunity to take some heat off him and buy more time. On her radio interview she seemed pretty composed for someone who was having an 'outburst'.'"
Initially I did, but on reflection I just think she was so desperate for us to win she blew up when we didn't. A win on Friday would have bought them a few weeks in the agar in stakes so you can understand her kicking off when we lost narrowly and the ref was dire
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Well it's much more believable than your conspiracy theory but it's a pointless argument as we will never know.'"
Conspiracy theory? Hardly.
Kath's remarks on Friday night were either:
a) a foolish outburst from a woman who, despite what else she might be, is no fool
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b) a continuation of the spin tactics that have become a hallmark of the current regime
As you say we'll never know.
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So a grapple tackle is now a straight yellow card?
How come Jones didn’t get sinbinned then?
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2471
I think this inconstancy is the most annoying things about match officials these days.
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So a grapple tackle is now a straight yellow card?
How come Jones didn’t get sinbinned then?
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2471
I think this inconstancy is the most annoying things about match officials these days.
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| Quote ="Dave K."
I think this inconstancy is the most annoying things about match officials these days.'"
always has been in most sports mate - probably always will be ...
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| Quote ="sanjunien"always has been in most sports mate - probably always will be ...'"
Simply because no two incidents in any dynamic sport are the same, even if refereed by an automaton
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Simply because no two incidents in any dynamic sport are the same, even if refereed by an automaton'"
of course, and decisions at any given time are based on ones personal instinct at that moment - one mans 'ball steal' is another mans 'knock on' for example
all people are different and will have different interpretations of any incident.
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