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| Quote ="Cam Laing"No - just happy and content - but thanks for the query
- intersted though why you referred to your Employer and pay freeze..
"Yes that works. Official channels everytime. My company have turned round and said pay freeze because of the current climate. This despite the fact we have bucked the recession and made massive profits. We won't strike and they know it? Exploitation? Or are they right as well?"'"
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| Quote ="Kosh"Is English not your first language? Genuine question, because you seem to be unfamiliar with the use of the word 'you' to refer to an unspecified third person or group of people rather than a specific individual. For instance, in that sentence the word 'you' is used in the sense of 'anyone'. It's a quite common usage, which is why I couldn't understand why you were getting so upset.
I can't. His problem has been caused by the illegal actions of his employer, and his anger should be directed at him rather than the immigrant worker.
My view was that if they had a genuine grievance and evidence that the rules were being broken they should have pursued things through official channels first.'" You need to get your head out your backside mate. I've not read of one person on here saying they are pro BNP. Some people are more open minded to "all" views even those of vile people. You're basically saying that anyone who doesn't disagree with everything the BNP says is a racist. That's just foolish IMO.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"How is the Costa del Sol these days?'"
To right davey boy - I worked with a bitch from Hull who 'emigrated' to Spain and inscensed me one day when having a go at Ethnics coming here and dont even try to speak the language - oh yeh I bet she dont even know what 'ola' means
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| Quote ="denbo63"Well the law would say different.
Racism is illegal. Nationalism isn't.'"
Missed this pearl of 'wisdom'.
The problem is with your definition of racism.
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| Quote ="denbo63"Probably the fact the Jewish community ( who are renowned for their hard work, same as the Chinese) aren't wanting to impose Sharia Law on the country. Or do you fancy that? You into treating women like crap or something?'"
Yet again pure quality - of course the Chinese have a fantastic track record of Human Rights
Also for your information Sharia Law isn't a fundamental part of the Islamic faith - like you have asked me to read up on the Policies of the BNP... please do a tadge of research into the Islamic faith - you may be surprised.
And a final point - I don't treat women like crap... but thanks for your concern...!!!
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| Quote ="Kosh"Missed this pearl of 'wisdom'.
The problem is with your definition of racism.'"
But is it not a fact?
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| Quote ="kathy kirk"To right davey boy - I worked with a bitch from Hull who 'emigrated' to Spain and inscensed me one day when having a go at Ethnics coming here and dont even try to speak the language - oh yeh I bet she dont even know what 'ola' means'"
If my memory serves me right the 'St Ola' was the ferry that went from Scrabster to Orkney - perhaps Nick and his boys might want to call it into service to reloacte anybody who dares to attend a Mosque...
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| Quote ="Cam Laing"Yet again pure quality - of course the Chinese have a fantastic track record of Human Rights
Also for your information Sharia Law isn't a fundamental part of the Islamic faith - like you have asked me to read up on the Policies of the BNP... please do a tadge of research into the Islamic faith - you may be surprised.
And a final point - I don't treat women like crap... but thanks for your concern...!!!'"
Perhaps the Chinese over here have fled that regime? Good on them if they have. But like I said, the majority of Chinese people apply themselves to work and create businesses or work damned hard.
As for Sharia law, I've read a big chunk of the Koran ( I confess not all) and especially like the bit about slaying non-believers (infidels).
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| Quote ="denbo63"Perhaps the Chinese over here have fled that regime? Good on them if they have. But like I said, the majority of Chinese people apply themselves to work and create businesses or work damned hard.
As for Sharia law, I've read a big chunk of the Koran ( I confess not all) and especially like the bit about slaying non-believers (infidels).'" Do you have a problem with Muslims?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"You need to get your head out your backside mate. I've not read of one person on here saying they are pro BNP. Some people are more open minded to "all" views even those of vile people. You're basically saying that anyone who doesn't disagree with everything the BNP says is a racist. That's just foolish IMO.'"
Then you need to take your own advice from your first sentence.
What I'm saying is that you can't support or vote for a party that is fundamentally racist without being a racist. And specifically you can't support a racist immigration policy without being a racist.
Feel free to explain how you think that it's possible to do either. Maybe you can even do it without resorting to abuse.
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| Like this.....
YOU HAVE TO LOVE HIM....A MUST READ...READ THIS! HE MADE THIS SPEECH IN NEW YORK .
The Plan!
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Robin Williams, wearing a shirt that says 'I love New York ' in Arabic.
You gotta love Robin Williams........Even if he's nuts! Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan. What we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.
Robin Williams' plan...(Hard to argue with this logic!)
'I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan.'
1) 'The US / UK /AUSTRALIA will apologize to the world for our 'interference' in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those '
good 'ole' boys', we will never 'interfere' again.
2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany , South Korea , the Middle East, and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at
our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.
3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are from. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.
4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.
5) No foreign 'students' over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a 'D' and it's back home baby.
6) The US /UK / Australia will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.
7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't
like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)
If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not 'interfere.' They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.
9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.
10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us 'Ugly Americans' any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH......learn it...or LEAVE...Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?
'The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'you want a piece of me?' '
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| The biggest confirmation on QT last night wasn't the bigotry of Griffin which was totally expected. It was instead the failure of the mainstream parties to accept that it was entirely their fault that Griffin was even there. As I said earlier in the week Griffin is there because of the failure of mainstream parties to address many issues not least the immigration debate which to many people is the main debate in this country. Warsi attempted to claim that Labour has failed to address the immigration issues that affect a good number of the population - which is true - but all parties should shoulder some blame for blindly allowing a lack of debate where the Government can't even measure who is here and who isn't against their suitability for residence.
Listen to Frank Field a Labour MP who knows how it is.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Do you have a problem with Muslims?'"
Not as a whole.
I have a problem with anyone. not just Muslims who hate our country, our lifestyle and us but are quite happy to live here. Would you allow this type of person in your house?
So why let them live in our country!
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| Quote ="denbo63"<some>'"
Ditch the crack pipe and get your mam to hide the foil
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| Quote ="Kosh"Then you need to take your own advice from your first sentence.
What I'm saying is that you can't support or vote for a party that is fundamentally racist without being a racist. And specifically you can't support a racist immigration policy without being a racist.
Feel free to explain how you think that it's possible to do either. Maybe you can even do it without resorting to abuse.'" Not supporting them or voting for them is different to not disagreeing with all they say.
Also, do you not think implying I'm a racist is personal abuse? You're supposed to be a mod aren't you?
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| Quote ="denbo63"That's not even funny. clever or accurate.
BTW he's not my hero, Joe Strummer is.
But if it makes you feel better keep grasping the tissues.'"
Joe Strummer was a leftist and a commited anti racist. The Clash were closely connected to the Anti Nazi League.
If he was alive today Strummer would be one of the most vocal anti-BNP campaigners around.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Ditch the crack pipe and get your mam to hide the foil'"
Isn't this abuse too? Ahh favourites tho eh?
The cider rotting your head Coddy?
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| Quote ="denbo63"But is it not a fact?'"
No. Racism is discrimination against an individual or group on the basis of their race or ethnicity.
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| Quote ="Kosh"No. Racism is discrimination against an individual or group on the basis of their race or ethnicity.'"
I didn't ask that. Is nationalism illegal?
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| Quote ="Cam Laing"Please could you define 'big Muslim concentration'... and who would be included in the head count with regards to booking them a place on the 'train' to the special location where they can send postcards to friends and family
Would that include somebody who was born in a foreign country - or say somebody who was born in the UK and can trace their family tree back to say King Harold but has converted to Islam...
From what I hear the 'left footers' are on the rise and what with it nearly been Nov 5th should we mobalise the troops and send them all back to the Vatican City...
PS - Please accept this an an apology to anybody who is Catholic and that includes my Mum
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Sorry to say he wont understand a word ofwhat you have just said
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| Quote ="denbo63"Perhaps the Chinese over here have fled that regime? Good on them if they have. But like I said, the majority of Chinese people apply themselves to work and create businesses or work damned hard.
As for Sharia law, I've read a big chunk of the Koran ( I confess not all) and especially like the bit about slaying non-believers (infidels).'"
??? Are the Chinese over here on visas or are they just here... Do they all work hard...
For me there are far too many generalsiation in any argument/view that has been put forward to convince me of anything apart from the fact that some people have a dislike for all Muslims due to Sharia Law...
Some people love the Chinnese because most of them work hard... The gang masters really do know how to work hard...
The Jewish boys also come out quite good in this one although I am sure that if they lent a few more 'Skekels' the world recession wouldn't be half as bad as it was... or is it because they lent money and charged interest that we are in this state - some people may want to ask their employer... And for the record the lending of money for interest is against the Islamic faith...
.... but hey what would I know - I follow a team called FC that plays in Black & White...
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"The biggest confirmation on QT last night wasn't the bigotry of Griffin which was totally expected. It was instead the failure of the mainstream parties to accept that it was entirely their fault that Griffin was even there. As I said earlier in the week Griffin is there because of the failure of mainstream parties to address many issues not least the immigration debate which to many people is the main debate in this country. Warsi attempted to claim that Labour has failed to address the immigration issues that affect a good number of the population - which is true - but all parties should shoulder some blame for blindly allowing a lack of debate where the Government can't even measure who is here and who isn't against their suitability for residence.
Listen to Frank Field a Labour MP who knows how it is.'" Probably what I'm trying to say but obviously not that well!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Not supporting them or voting for them is different to not disagreeing with all they say.'"
Indeed. Although TBF the non-racist parts of what they say are pretty mad and you'd have to be daft to agree with them.
Quote ="east hull FC fan"Also, do you not think implying I'm a racist is personal abuse? You're supposed to be a mod aren't you?'"
Where exactly have I implied that you're a racist?
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| Quote ="kathy kirk"Sorry to say he wont understand a word ofwhat you have just said
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Sorry Kathy I do. And he would be right. Any kind of mass deportation would be a minefield and totally stupid and impracticle. Just puzzled where I've apparently said that or said I agreed with such a proposition.....
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| Quote ="Cam Laing"??? Are the Chinese over here on visas or are they just here... Do they all work hard...
For me there are far too many generalsiation in any argument/view that has been put forward to convince me of anything apart from the fact that some people have a dislike for all Muslims due to Sharia Law...
Some people love the Chinnese because most of them work hard... The gang masters really do know how to work hard...
The Jewish boys also come out quite good in this one although I am sure that if they lent a few more 'Skekels' the world recession wouldn't be half as bad as it was... or is it because they lent money and charged interest that we are in this state - some people may want to ask their employer... And for the record the lending of money for interest is against the Islamic faith...
.... but hey what would I know - I follow a team called FC that plays in Black & White...'"
To only fellow Muslims. Can't see that working down at the old Yorkshire Bank can you?
Take a look at a well known prominent Muslim website. Gives advice how to get on in the community, thrive, make friends then gradually infiltrate, influence and take over.
Come on, even someone with your obviously blinkered browser settings can find that site. I dare ya...in fact I double dare ya!
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