Hopefully some on here will know realise that every game should be treated with a certain amount of respect and not start dreaming about 30 point wins.

They're not. At best, they are a very average team.

We're supposed to be too.

Poor poor poor. Gutted for those who went all that way in this weather.

30-0 giants

Well they dispatched us today!

They have got some good individual players, some with bags of experience. And with Mike Witt pulling the strings this year, they will do better than people expect them too IMO

Rovers 30-0 down!

And so are we.

Exactly, we had players on the field who should be performing better then that.

Tut tut indeed.

Agar should never have been in! At the end of the day, the buck stops with him, he's proved since he's been here that when it comes to tactics to beat a team, he'd rather freshen his breath.

Oh well..we may see some changes next week...Turner, Moa will get a shot hopefully

Hopefully everyone will understand now that half backs are critical in RL and if you haven't got at least one capable of directing play and calling the right options you will struggle. If Witt had been playing for us we would have won easily.

we need a big performance nxt week now

Giants 30-0 Dobbins FT

Don't count on it.

Probably just a blip, bad result but the Crusaders are a lot stronger than last year so don't read too much into it.

We was never going to win every game you know !! we are only 3 games in



Bad day at the office, next week we get back on the horse

At least we don't have to wait 5 games before we tumble

Turner's got to be given a chance instead of Horne. We haven't seen a good game from Horne since 2007 (obviously injury/illness has played a big part in that)

You would think, but I won't hold my breath.

Bring back Thorman

Terrible result. You can't even beat Crusaders. Even we beat Crusaders and we are playing absolutely crap.

Jesus wept..some posters need to get a grip!!

Noble owned Agar today I'm afraid. We concentrated on going up the middle to make up for our lack in the halves. No plan B at all. Let the debate begin - Crusaders better than people think or lack of cutting edge from us today?

Said it before and will again, Horne is not the player people think he is. He's done nothing since Cooke left. Today just proves that he needs a top No 7 next to him to make him look good!