Nope. Put it this way, not one person has guessed the correct starting 13.

They are basically the same player and you can add Yak into that aswell. Moa has played well enough pre-season to be selected.

So is someone 'in the know' going to share what they know?

If we have Radford, Dowes AND Cusack in our 17 at the expense of Moa, then we will be no better off than last season and my opinion of RA will have gone a full 360 degrees in quite a short space of time and I'll certainly be one of the first posters on the inevitable anti-agar thread.

If he drops Moa because he hasn't got the b0ll0cks to drop one of our cart-horses, then, for me, it's an indication that results/performances may not quite be what we hoped for and that he may not be in charge too long into the season.

Todays the day the teams have to be named isnt it?

Only the squads.

For me going on what we have seen in the 2 games then Radford & Dowes have shown enough to be in ahead of Cusack, for me for the balance and make up of the 17 one of those 3 will always have to miss out (unless injuries dictate) a reason why I think signing Cusack to an extension was alittle premature (but think that may have been part of getting Fitz).

Everyone can see that our big strength this season will be Longy excelling behind our big dominant pack so O'Meley and Moa have to be two of our props with 2 from the other 3. If we go into the Saints game with reduced go-forward and aggression due to Agar's insistence of picking all of his favourite workhorses, we are asking for a wallopping (sp.)

Surely not !
Dont tell me its starting all over again before a ball is even kicked ??

no because Mick Potter might be reading it

Agar may go with Lauaki on the bench and use him as a prop/2nd row cover

Calderwood is out apparently - Hamstring injury.

He's not injured.

Thorman has been drafted in as a last minute loan signing and will take Long's place in the squad!!!!!!!!

Come on Robbo, Tell us !

if the players were injured wouldnt of wolfie or hutchie would of told us by now

There would have been a 10 page injury thread by now surely.

The only thing i can think of is a shock inclusion of one of the youngsters.

Im guessing that Moa wont be in the 17 and that we have gone with cusack who hasnt hardly played and looked very rusty against rovers.

Tansey
Calderwood
Turner
Yeaman
Briscoe
Horne
Long
Radford
Berrigan
Dowes
Manu
Tickle
Fitzgibbon
subs
Houghton
O'meley
Luaki
Moa

Would of gone for Whiting or Washbrook instead of Houghton on the bench and let Berro play full 80 but given the fact he's not had a run out i think we'll see him play a first half and second half 20-25 minute spells.

So Calderwood not in the 19 I see.

Berrigan, T Briscoe, Cusack, Dowes, Fitzgibbon, Hall, Horne, Houghton, Lauaki, Long, Manu, O’Meley, Radford, Tansey, Tickle, Turner, Washbrook, Whiting, Yeaman.

If Moa and Calderwood are fit then that's an odd selection, to say the least.

Here we go again...

Indeed it is. Moa has done very well pre-season and offers the sort of impact from the bench that none of the other three do. Unless Calderwood is injured or he's been doing something very naughty I see no good reason for him not to be selected either.

squad announced on hullfc.com www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?p=5340

squad announced on hullfc.com www.hullfc.com/hullfc/contents/?p=5340

Says Calderwood is injured, but no mention of Moa. Has he just left him out in favour of the 'workhorse' props we've become so used to?

I'd expect he'll select a Whiting/Hall partnership on the right.