Haha I do mate thanks. Was just a little more than hacked off last night.
Can't manage Cats away and won't go to rovers but I'll be back for the Salford game.
Always do don't we?

could have been a very different game if Ablett had been sent for ten as he should have been, of course we've improved, amazes me, people were saying "give Agar time, it's not his squad" and yet the very same people are questioning wether we've improved under Gentle when it's clear to see we have.

any CONFIRMATION of the Salford k/o yet?

We lost by 32 points in that game. Not convinced last night was as poor as that.

10 first teamers out, poor conditions and atrocious officials, last night was nowhere near as bad.

With ball in hand we were as bad. Defensively our attitude was much better.

I criticise the club when I see fit, however I find it pathetic when people say they have had enough or are considering not going any more based on a few poor perfomances or the signing of one player.

That was nowhere near as bad as the playoff loss, and we clearly have improved as much as the current squad is capable of improving. We were never going to achieve much this season even before all the injuries and disruption. Our first choice 17 was only likely to get us up to around 6th at best so no surprise that we're falling short with half of them not available for one reason or another.

stop speaking sense kosh, people dont like it,

thinkthat was one of the worst refereed games i have ever watched. thought you were going well. when you were 12 points down you looked to me the better team but at one point the penalty count was 10 -2 in leeds favour and they wre getting every decision that he could possibly give them. its about time they bit the bullet in england and got some decent aussie refs in for a couple of seasons to learn them the game. on the plus side , thought mcgoldrick had a good game.

I agree with that but our team were dead on their feet and couldn't cope with the pace. The penalty count killed us and Leeds took advantage of all the tackling we had to do. So that's why we struggled for the qptb and organising our attacking structure.
All my opinion of course add to that Manu, Radford, heremaia, watts and mcgoldrick were all blowing out their as s es.

Well damn right the club were talking about top 4 before, what would you have them say 'this is as good as it's gonna get this year'?

This is exactly about the way you process articles and statements. Consistently you pick up on what the club say they are aiming for and then hold it up as a minimum requirement so that you can then vilify them for not delivering what they say.

And it doesn't matter how you say you interpret McRae's comments, they aren't contradictory. Contradiction means 2 statements that directly oppose each other in meaning, McRae's did no such thing.

I don't think you'll get a better chance of beating Leeds, Sinfield apart they were awful. Error after error they were giving Hull every chance to get into the game 2nd half. You certainly had enough go forward to hurt them, unfortunately your just lacking that player who can unlock a defence,

Apart from the game at the KC a few weeks ago when we actual [idid[/i beat them, you mean?

You say the ref was terrible but as with every club including leeds you only seem to have a bad ref when your team loses!!

They dont seem quite as bad if you watch them on TV? coincidence?

I watched on TV last night and he was terrible, but then most are. More and more, refs seems to favour one team for big chunks of the game meaning teams get on top

I am not vilifying them at all I am responding to the fact making claims several weeks ago claiming top 4 finish [uwill[/u raise fans expectations, simple really.

McRae did an article in the media re Manu and stated the club wanted a decision, a matter of weeks later re Turner & Whiting (I believe) he claimed the club understood that the players needed time to make a decision, that is a contradiction.

Can anybody remember a game which hull fc lost and it wasn't the referees fault ? I can recall a play off match when hull played bradford and the referee sent steven kearney off after about 6mins for 3 head high tackles and was blamed for the loss.The score was 71-0. By the way I do agree the referee heavily favoured leeds last night with some poor decisions.!

Thanks for reminding me about the score,I had forgot all about it.

I suppose it depends on the fan. Personally I'd expect my fellow fans to be able to make their own judgments rather than just go with whatever they hear others saying. Then again I suppose there are people who are convinced pyramid schemes will make them rich, too.



We went through this at the time, no it's not. It was different players who will have been made different levels of offer and therefore had different levels of influence on the salary cap. And even then, it's still not a contradiction at all to understand why players want to take their time but then say that that time is not available. The club could afford to wait a bit longer for Whiting and Turner to decide, they couldn't afford to hang around not knowing whether or not they had a chunk of cap the size of Manu to play with. It would perhaps be a contradiction if the situations were the same, but they really weren't.

It's a trend started by James Child ,picked up by Roby, Alibert and ignored by Ganson *Spit*

He was the best winger since Offiah after he scored that try against Leeds at the KC. Whats changed? Or was it that try wasnt as good as you thought and you were massivley overreacting to a win against Leeds for the first team in ages!!

You're forgetting that you were playing a team that has been hammered by the top clubs recently and is struggling to scrape into the play-offs. To lose to Leeds at the moment should be humiliating for you whether you have 10 first teamers out or not. Stop trying to desperately find positives from your truly shocking display, be realistic. FACT: you were well beaten by a very poor Leeds team.

Couldn't agree more. Fact that a depleted Hull side really was in with a chance says everything you need to know about leeds. No repeat of teh 2011 GF charge for them this year

Why? Why aren't people allowed to find positives? Why do we have to be OTT negative?

This just seems an ignorant thing to say.

In Any Kind of Weather mate