If HTW is our man in at 7 in 1-2 years, it could be that Radford sees Gale as better bang for buck (with 106 SL games to his name at the age of 25) than Miller in the meantime.

Carvell is a class forward. Mason is experienced cover.

Because 2 picked up bad injuries last week and Carvell's become available.

Not yet, second opinion

Did we expect to go all season with no real injuries to the forwards. Carvell I can understand.

Ah, the 'let's see if we can get the Mason deal over the line' opinion.

Think that's in the bag regardless

The only difference Green's injury makes is in terms of numbers. He'll end up playing down the league somewhere or in the championship in years to come. He has never fulfilled his potential. Bowden still has time to make something of himself especially if he has some props to play with , time will tell. Carvell I'm sure most would see as good for a year but if asked a year ago would not really have seen him as a target. Whilst Mason is a more workmanlike prop than many give him credit for , again , there's not many that would admit to having him as an aspirational target during the last couple of years or so. If it was spin that said we're OK in the prop department a few short months ago then it looks silly now. If the coach believed it and now has changed his mind the you have to wonder about his and his staff's judgement. We are once again casting about it seems for players on the eve of the season because we've known for a while or have just woken up to the fact that we lack quality in a number of key areas. The fact that there is little quality about and no guarantees of even getting what's available won't help the confidence or perhaps commitment of those players we'd replace if we could but may have to soldier on with.

this morning i was up to scratch with these possible signings

after a long day at work I'm totally confused.

can anyone shine some light on whats happening seeing that miller gone and gale coming. seeing mason (assuming keith) coming in as well as carvel .

wish we could have sorted our recruitment out earlier especially with the need to get off to a good start with a surfeit of home games coming up

yeah i do too. think theres a bit of panic after such a poor pre season.

would like to see some new signings but i think losing Miller would be a loss. it may have an affect on the younger players. especially rankin who seemed to be attracted to Hull because of miller

Don't know about that but some Hull players were fighting in Nu Bar last Sunday

The Mail says today that Gale has been offered a deal and he'll decide within the next 24 hours but looks (according to James Smailes) "certain" to join Hull.

Carvell's move should also be completed soon.

I honestly do not think we will be offloading Miller this season. As for Gale I'm not overly bothered about him, would rather look at Sammut out of the two.
Don't know the Mason rumour has come from, but when he was at Huddersfield I was a big fan. Mainly due to his aggressiveness and ability to wind the opposition up. Saying that, I'd only take him for a season I think.

Mason is a bit more understandable if Green is out for a few weeks.

Can't believe people are writing Bowden and Green off already, one of the few highlights of pre season has been how well Bowden as gone, he has never been given a good run at the club and is only young for a prop to develop,

Green was excellent in patchs last year, certainly the first few games and IMO unfairly dropped a couple of times in favour of more senior players.

I agree people shouldn't write either of just yet, and to say Bowden looks as though he doesn't want to be here Seb is laughable. Against Fev he was the only first teamer from the pack who looked interested and was our best forward. I believe Green has a better chance of making it, but I'm also a fan of Bowden. Remember props don't hit their peak until there late 20s and there both under 24.
If anyone's going to moan about one of our props it's Watts. Done nothing since his first half a season here. Doesn't run his weight even after bulking back up and seems to have forgotten how to offload.

Is it fair to think that bringing in Gale automatically means the exit of Miller?

I love a good rumour!

I'd think so, not sure it the correct decision IMO, I'd rather keep Miller and wait to see if a better player become available.

If Miller and Mc go, it will have us down to 5 overseas players, which must be one of the lowest in the league, which is good for the club.

I can't see Miller going, tbh and I hope he doesn't

I apologise for the desperate comment yesterday, a better word would have been badly timed, the Carvell one I can understand, the opportunity has arisen and he is a quality forward who probably has a good year left in him, the Gale and Mason ones seem very knee jerk and not signings many of you would have welcomed prior to the preseason performances.

How would getting rid of Miller work? If some are to be believed he is on a sizeable contract which has 1 or 2 years to run. Would this mean a pay off and if so would this come off the cap as the season has already started?

Can’t see him walking of his own accord, will be similar with McD

With all due respect do you not think this is asset stripping a club.

tough, it's business. You weren't saying that when you were all waving sponge fingers and celebrating stealing Harris

If neither Miller nor McDonnell play a league game then any pay off wouldn't count in the cap.

I hope Gale turns us down (although it looks unlikely), as that would mean keeping Jacob, who for me deserves a chance.

Mason I agree, but we are a bit desperate in the prop department due to Green and Watts having rumored long term injuries.

Gale is a strange one, maybe Miller wants out and we dont want to be left with horne and Rankin as our only senior halfbacks.

Biggest disappointment for me, is why have we left this so late, 4 days before the season starts is not good planning at all.

I'm wondering if Miller wants out to go home?