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| We were going well up until Griffin's ridiculous antics, He made himself look a right idiot. If someone did that to Connor to goad him people would be up in arms.
Non of the 50/50's went our way unlike last week and the refereeing left a lot to desired but that isn't why we lost. The best team won on the night. The scoreline was hard to take, more so because we were really building into the game and looked the stronger of the teams up until that moment.
The second half ran away from us with no game management what so ever. how many times did the ball end up in the wrong persons hands on the last tackle resulting in a poor end to the set or panicked passing resulting in lost possession? We tried but it just wasn't happening. I'd have taken it a month ago though. Time to move on now with a total fresh set of ideas and ethics.
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| Decent first quarter then it was a Pies masterclass. No issues from me.
As for Lasty, he is not a head coach, he is not a leader of men. I've been saying for sometime the whole backroom old boys network needs a clear out. We need a fresh start, no idea who though.
Roll on 2021 and getting back to games home and away. Hope Toulouse come in too.
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| Quote ="mosher"Decent first quarter then it was a Pies masterclass. No issues from me.
As for Lasty, he is not a head coach, he is not a leader of men. I've been saying for sometime the whole backroom old boys network needs a clear out. We need a fresh start, no idea who though.
Roll on 2021 and getting back to games home and away. Hope Toulouse come in too.'"
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"He didn't mate. He clapped his error but he never touched him. We also had Gildart penalised and sinbinned for the same offence last season. In fact Griffin's was far worse as he ran in from a distance and decided to knock out a few bars of 'When The Levee Breaks' on Partington's head. The ref's are infuriatingly inconsistent on most things and this is just the same. I could point to the forearm into Isa's face as one that should have been given but wasn't. Griffin's fault..no one else's.
Anyway, good effort by your lads, especially in the first 20. Also class in giving O'Loughlin the send off at the end. Most importantly thanks for finding your best form against Wire last week. I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed that!
Good luck in your search for a new coach. Hope you get the right man.'"
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"I’m trying to work out what the most difficult of circumstances are, Taking over from Radford? How is 5 drives and a kick a good game plan. The only time we opened Wigan and should have scored up was right at the end when the game was gone.
Andy Last is not a head coach.'"
Hey I'm no Einstein, but I'm guessing he's talking about taking over during a worldwide pandemic
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| Quote ="Father Ted"It is a penalty infringement and has been since half way through last season. Griffin's fault not the referee's.[/
Any attack to the head is a penalty,whether it is 3 pats to the top of the head,a slap to the face or a punch,as a rovers fan who had backed hull last night,no doubt was griffins stupidity was the turning point, hull in front and on top,wigan clearly rattled and under pressure and griffin stops the momentum and they score.After that the wigan heads rose and hull sank.The score flattered wigan massively but griffin wasn't even subtle about it,lesson to be learnt,would have much preferred you to win,wigan are my pet hate.
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"Hey I'm no Einstein, but I'm guessing he's talking about taking over during a worldwide pandemic'"
The so called pandemic ended months ago, now we have a scamdemic. The same situation applied to all the other teams, Leeds won a Challenge Cup, handing Wigan thier backside on the way. Wigan won the league leaders shield, and are now in the GF. All Andy Last had to do was go from No2 to No.1, it’s not like a player suddenly having to take the role of coach, Last has been a coach quite a few years now.
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"The so called pandemic ended months ago, now we have a scamdemic. The same situation applied to all the other teams, Leeds won a Challenge Cup, handing Wigan thier backside on the way. Wigan won the league leaders shield, and are now in the GF. All Andy Last had to do was go from No2 to No.1, it’s not like a player suddenly having to take the role of coach, Last has been a coach quite a few years now.'"
Still, must of been harder then taking over without the pandemic (scamdemic )
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"The so called pandemic ended months ago, now we have a scamdemic. The same situation applied to all the other teams, Leeds won a Challenge Cup, handing Wigan thier backside on the way. Wigan won the league leaders shield, and are now in the GF. All Andy Last had to do was go from No2 to No.1, it’s not like a player suddenly having to take the role of coach, Last has been a coach quite a few years now.'"
The families of the 3,000 people (ONS stats) who have died this week may disagree that the scamdemic ended months ago.
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| Wigans game management was class as expected , There defensive line speed strangled the life out of our one dimensional attack which we couldn't change or adapt .
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| Saints doing Catalans what Wigan did to us. But more so. The Big 4 stranglehold on Grand Final appearances continues - 26 of the 28 GF participants since we got there back in 2006 from those 4, and every winner in those 14 seasons from the Big 3. The gap based on this year seems to be widening rather than narrowing.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Saints doing Catalans what Wigan did to us. But more so. The Big 4 stranglehold on Grand Final appearances continues - 26 of the 28 GF participants since we got there back in 2006 from those 4, and every winner in those 14 seasons from the Big 3. The gap based on this year seems to be widening rather than narrowing.'"
The last time someone other than Wigan/Saints/Leeds/Bradford were RL Champions was Widnes way back in 1989.
Thatcher was Prime Minister, George Bush had just replaced Ronald Reagan as US President, Nelson Mandela was still in prison and the Berlin Wall had yet to be demolished.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"The last time someone other than Wigan/Saints/Leeds/Bradford were RL Champions was Widnes way back in 1989.
Thatcher was Prime Minister, George Bush had just replaced Ronald Reagan as US President, Nelson Mandela was still in prison and the Berlin Wall had yet to be demolished.'"
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"
Thatcher was Prime Minister, George Bush had just replaced Ronald Reagan as US President, Nelson Mandela was still in prison and the Berlin Wall had yet to be demolished.'"
Theodore Bundy fried.
Exxon Valdez spilled
Guildford Four freed
Salman Rushdie hid.
Marchioness, Hillsborough and *Kegworth air disaster.
*Withernsea Lifebooat crew were passing on the M1 when it went down and were amongst the first rescuers on the scene.
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"The so called pandemic ended months ago, now we have a scamdemic. The same situation applied to all the other teams, Leeds won a Challenge Cup, handing Wigan thier backside on the way. Wigan won the league leaders shield, and are now in the GF. All Andy Last had to do was go from No2 to No.1, it’s not like a player suddenly having to take the role of coach, Last has been a coach quite a few years now.'"
70,000 dead in the UK, yeah, one hell,of a scamdemic, you really are an idiot, please stay in your village and don't infect the rest of us.
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| Quote ="WestEndThinker"70,000 dead in the UK, yeah, one hell,of a scamdemic, you really are an idiot, please stay in your village and don't infect the rest of us.'"
From the daily mail today
CORONAVIRUS CRISIS
What they DON'T tell you about Covid: Fewer beds taken up than last year, deaths a fraction of the grim forecasts, 95% of fatalities had underlying causes... and how the facts can be twisted to strike fear in our hearts
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| Quote ="bonaire"From the daily mail today
CORONAVIRUS CRISIS
What they DON'T tell you about Covid: Fewer beds taken up than last year, deaths a fraction of the grim forecasts, 95% of fatalities had underlying causes... and how the facts can be twisted to strike fear in our hearts'"
The Daily Mail
Might have known that you'd be a Covidiot.
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| So one news outlet posts "news" and it's gospel
Another offers an alternative set of facts and its ridiculed
Talk me through it
Didn't valance and witty get a telling off for using outdated inaccurate data and charts to spoonfeed the public.
I'd say if you take the "news" as fact your pretty dumb
Nobody knows how many deaths are purely due to covid Alone as they've put some very convieniant small print under the deaths in the form of , deaths within 28 days of testing positive for covid.
And from what I've read about the tests they are pretty dubious too, lots of false positives so I'd guess the numbers are hugely inflated.
Can't beat somebody who questions everything, keep it up lads, ignore the negative comments
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"So one news outlet posts "news" and it's gospel
Another offers an alternative set of facts and its ridiculed
Talk me through it
Didn't valance and witty get a telling off for using outdated inaccurate data and charts to spoonfeed the public.
I'd say if you take the "news" as fact your pretty dumb
Nobody knows how many deaths are purely due to covid Alone as they've put some very convieniant small print under the deaths in the form of , deaths within 28 days of testing positive for covid.
And from what I've read about the tests they are pretty dubious too, lots of false positives so I'd guess the numbers are hugely inflated.
Can't beat somebody who questions everything, keep it up lads, ignore the negative comments'"
Just for reference Lee Harvey Oswald was operating alone, we definitely [idid [/iland on the Moon and the Earth isn't flat.
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| Quote ="bonaire"From the daily mail today
CORONAVIRUS CRISIS
What they DON'T tell you about Covid: Fewer beds taken up than last year, deaths a fraction of the grim forecasts, 95% of fatalities had underlying causes... and how the facts can be twisted to strike fear in our hearts'"
Facts Can be twisted? Yes they can, however your assertion would have had some credence until you quoted this from the Daily Mail. A paper whose billionaire owner, a tax nom-dom "tax payer" would like to see restrictions lifted. I wonder why.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"And from what I've read about the tests they are pretty dubious too, lots of false positives so I'd guess the numbers are hugely inflated.'"
.... let's conveniently ignore the false negatives, which have a much bigger impact on the number of cases.
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| Quote ="bonaire"From the daily mail today
CORONAVIRUS CRISIS
What they DON'T tell you about Covid: Fewer beds taken up than last year, deaths a fraction of the grim forecasts, 95% of fatalities had underlying causes... and how the facts can be twisted to strike fear in our hearts'"
Only 70,000 excess deaths. What would you or the daily mail class as grim?
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| So nobody's allowed to doubt all the data and opinions provided even though information has come to light shedding doubt on it all?
I noticed an Oxford professor who was an expert in the field had his evaluation interview censored. If you constantly hear one side of an argument it becomes your own, the older generation are the worst for it, too many opinion pieces read in the papers and spoonfed to you on the BBC etc. Try some social media and take in a view alternative opinions you'll get a better balance.
I love the conspiracy tool used in arguments, it's another word for people who read more than you , cheers
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"The Daily Mail
Might have known that you'd be a Covidiot.'"
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