I think if Miller doesn't play next week, there must be something sinister afoot. I didn't think he was as bad as some are making out last season. He was definitely inconsistent and prone to a few errors, but he showed some nice touches as well. Certainly enough of them to be worth three or four games this year to see how he goes.

I thought if they hadn't played a competitive game in that season, they could be paid off without counting on the cap.

It is possible that Radford has been trying to work with Miller on improving some deficiencies before throwing him into the lion's den so to speak. If Miller hasn't been particularly impressive in training that wouldn't necessarily be anything other than good coaching by offering some time to the player. This approach is hampered somewhat by not being able to play him in an A team (scandalous IMO) or on dual reg. Maybe this is why Miller has seemed reasonably happy despite not playing - maybe he has seen some merit in that approach and decided to work with it ?

Now that the first team half back standards have fallen below par the time must have come for him to be given an opportunity.

True, but you cant sign loads of players and promise that some won't play. Miller would have to leave before we could sign anyone.

They can.

Yeah, I get that. I was just responding to the poster who said the salary cap wasn't a consideration - it could be in Miller's case (if the coach wants rid).

I think he meant until someone leaves?

The salary cap is live. If he leaves tomorrow his cap will have counted from day 1 of the season until now. If he leaves the next highest earner outside the 25 takes the next spot.

I think your wrong there, unless the rules have changed.

Not sure that that's the case if he hasn't played all year. I'm not 100% certain, so if you are, fair enough.

For the payoff and going forward, yes. I mean the claims that he and McDonnell aren't playing because of Carvell's arrival. Surely even the RFL don't have a system so stupid that you can bring in an additional player by saying that another one won't play?

I did. Surely a player can't be deemed as not on the cap because they haven't played until the point that they leave?

Ah, right. See, I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to hullbg when he said:



If only there was some way of making it clear which poster I was responding to. Some sort of quote facility, perhaps?

But yes, there's no way Miller isn't playing because of Carvell's arrival.

Miller must be given a chance now. It's not working in the halves so let's try something different.

If not Miller then why not give young Tyson-Wilson a try?

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Miller is not the answer you do not bring a kid in to try and lead a team around the park when their low on confidence that would not be fair on him or the other players and last season we won more matches with Azza and horney at half's than any other pairing

Its simple the players need to get their fingers out and execute what they are practising in training bring the same attitude to the game as Gaz Ellis does week in week out instead of coming up with mindless plays individual errors and brain farts like yemo Crooks and rankin came up with yesterday which cost us the 2 points

I will give the forwards and the young guys who stepped up credit thought they came in and stood up with who we had missing up front thought we more than matched them which makes our execution even more frustrating the players must give some honesty this week and put it right on Friday night, for me no wholesale changes give the players out their a chance to redeem themselves I might just drop Yemo for whiting if Shaul available bring him back and maybe Rankin into the half's where he is best I think

Maybe with an idiot's guide how to manual, so you quote the right one?

I think you're wrong there mate. According to my checkings just now we won four matches with a HB combi of Azza and Horney but six with a combination of Holdsworth and Miller.

Obviously, before the season starts, nobody has played but there is a "live" salary cap registered with the RFL.
I'm sure it's the final cap at the end of the season that actually counts, and only players who have played a competitive match are included.
The live cap is to avoid/catch problems early so they can be dealt with straight away (rather than in previous years when it was after the season had ended.)

So while it may seem stupid to exceed the live cap, it's fine as long as it's ok at the end of the season.

I'm not convinced that's right. I recall that when the live cap was introduced, it was suggested that signings would not be ratified and registered unless they fit into a club's live cap space. I could be wrong, but I don't think it's as you say.

Where's Kosh when you need him ?

There seems to be something in the rules under the "Ongoing Assessment of a Club’s Aggregate Liability" section.



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Again it is at the discretion of the RSCM. I seriously hope we as a club are not hedging our bets on the RFL being sympathetic to our cause. Also do we want to be seen as the club that will get rid of players pretty quickly. It has 2 effecs on the club.
1, Players can come for an easy payday know if they fail to perform they will be hoofed out with a nice settlement.
2, Players will not want to come with the pressure of knowing the club have a habit of binning players who do not fit in.

Either there is some substance in the Craig Hall to FC rumour !!!
Or Radford doesn't think miller is simply not good enough !!

In regards to not playing miller due to cap reasons then why did Radders take the risk of have him 18th man a couple of times this season when 1 late injury and then he has to play ?

You could well be right.

It just seems that the signing of players would have an additional hurdle to jump, which at worst would delay the signing for a number of days.

Yesterday, Houghtons distribution was slow, inaccurate and readable. Heremaia offers more there at the moment in terms of speed and metres. Putting him at 7 is just unnecessary. We have to at least give Rankin and Miller a chance there. His defence cannot be as bad as Ben Crooks at the moment. Lets face it, Dobson's defence was woeful for Rovers and he was their mojo and won them games. Millers sat in the stand on his 3DS. If he's never going to play, send him back.
I just hope Radfords not going to persist with Horne there.
If the rumours about Shauls injury are true, get him at fullback where he is more effective and away from putting his boot onto a ball.