how much extra traffic do you think it's going to create, is congestion already a problem?

After a quick Google search, I found this number: 0800 567474.

You may want to give them a call? The number is for an anti-bulling support group who specialise in adults being bullied over internet message boards.

Yep, it gets very bad down there.

fair enough, is Chamberlain Road where there was (is?) a driving text centre, near an Irish Club (if I am thinking of the right place?)

Yes thats the one Standee. Everyone uses it as a cut through.

in which case I can understand the objections, unless Barratts are intending to build some kind of improved road infrastructure, but I can't see (from memory of the area) how that could be achieved?

The only logical extension would be an access road from James Reckitt but I dont think that is possible anyway. Coming from the other sides wont be plausible either.

Is 100 houses, probably a maximum of 200 cars going to make that much of a difference?

Its not like they will all be driving at the same time....

It's not just the extra cars for the homeowners, your looking at extra traffic from a whole host of people (Post/Utilities/Couriers/Waste disposal and many more) in an area where it is bad enough already.

Wright Homes tried that (before they went bust) between 105-107 JRA (iirc). They wanted to purchase the house and flats on either side of a "tenfoot" but the owners wouldn't budge. Same for Woodhall Street (the Farmhouse owner wouldn't sell) and Bibury Close. The only access onto the site is the single track from Chamberlain Road literally a foot or two away from the pedestrian crossing.

Is that the one with the gates on (or used to have the gates on) that you used to drive up to the clubhouse?

Yes thats the one. The plans show that it will be kept as a single track because if they widen it it would encroach on the (already too small) playing pitches.

It is also on a pedestrian crossing which can't be moved because of Fordyke Stream cycle track so not sure how they would manage this.

So that tiny access road is going to be serving 100 homes!!!! That's ridiculous.

Just for those who don't know the road here is a snapshot from Google maps

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Yep, hence 500 objections and a 2,000 name petition.

Not surprised, i know whenever we played there you could never get two cars going past each other without encroaching on the grass.

Do you have to remind me





I had to sit on that tiny yellow barrier to the right this morning with the dogs until I am fit enough again



The pitches will be on the front overlooking Chamberlain and the houses will be towards the back where the Pavillion and tennis courts are.

Yup, so traffic has decreased already due to the test centre moving

question, do people really want to live in that area, is there a market, aren't there a lot of new builds empty elsewhere ?

I think that is one of the main reasons why it seems a bit ridiculous. I think Barratts have a "steal" on the land and will just do it haphazardly (re infrastructure)

Is the site still overgrown with weeds? Looked a right eyesore last time I looked and would be much better with 100's of tiny new houses with no gardens and not enough parking. Would certainly improve the area no end you bunch of nimbys. Can't imagine who would want to live there mind

Yeah it is still a complete mess.

So what's the problem? The area is already crammed with houses and verges on an industrial area. A few more houses will make no difference whatsoever. It's not as if it's some unspoilt village out in the countryside

I personally haven't got an issue with the proposed development. Would rather see that, than it continue to be the disgrace it currently is.

Surely if anyone is to blame (assuming its a bad thing) its the directors of Reckitts who sold the land to Hull Brewery?

Wholeheardly agree. The land was gifted by James Reckitt to his employees and held in trust. Reckitts sold the land about 12 years ago without the employees knowledge.

Not quite sure on the ins and outs of the sale but am pretty sure it was sold with the caveat of recreational use still in place and the current owner and Barratts meet the caveat by having a small portion of the land given up for recreation but am certain this is not what was originally intended.