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| If you add the Allam/SMC "cut" (whatever that might be) into the equation,
you might find that pay at the turnstile doesn't actually make a significant difference to income.
Only guessing.
If you really want to get bored....
Quote Suppose 8000 passholders pay £10 per match on average, and the SMC cut off point is 8000.
If all passholders attend a match, with none paying at the gate, income is £80000. SMC get nothing.
If another 2000 had payed £5 at the gate, the income is now £90000.
It now depends on what the extra 2000 supports are deemed to have payed to get in. Is it £5 or £10 or the average?
The average is actually £9, so do the SMC get 50%, say, of £18000 which is £9000.
In other words, the club would get just 50p for each of those extra 2000 supporters.'"
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| I'm not over analysing anything, 'Sir Stan' stated how will one tell the difference between a non pass holder & a friend, 'Sheldon' then came back with a childish response that made him/her look stupid because it was there in the wording, pretty obviously without having to 'analyse anything.
I realise that for some you may have to digest what people write more so than others but what Pearson wrote was plainly obvious.
For fans that turn up ad-hoc why should they care how much or if there's a discount, to wait to attend only games (one or two if you're lucky) if a discount is offered is just a nonsense.
You turn up when you can or when you feel like it, whatever the prevailing price is is what you pay. If you don't like the full price don't attend, that's your option.
For Pearson to make such a statement about discounting is just solely to push the pass sales, IMO he doesn't need to mention discounted games not happening, in fact it just makes the statement look negative. For sure mention about £5 friend or child with a season pass holder, the second bit just came across as agressive in its nature and was contadictory.
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| Quote ="barham red"Think its a pretty bold statement and one that could come back to bite him if he doesn't get the response he wants in terms of pass sales.
If and it is if there is a dramatic downturn in pass sales and team form is poor then surely the only recourse, especially for the less attractive games is to offer a discount and try and entice stay aways back to the fold.'"
I think last season showed that price cuts and small promotions do little for our gate. More than anything it is the teams form & hype that affects our crowds, and whether the game is on TV or not.
We seem to get 10-11K home fans for every home game regardless of the opposition now. Whereas before it was more like 11-12K for the small games, with another few thousand turning up for the big ties. We've lost a good 1k of the 'hardcore' support over the last few years, while the floating fans aren't bothered anymore.
What doesn't help is that we have to be the worst side for flopping dramatically on TV, every time we win a couple of games and a flicker of hype starts to build...the team go and put in a horror show. Its no surprise fans choose to stay at home or watch on TV and keep their money.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I'm not over analysing anything, 'Sir Stan' stated how will one tell the difference between a non pass holder & a friend, 'Sheldon' then came back with a childish response that made him/her look stupid because it was there in the wording, pretty obviously without having to 'analyse anything.
I realise that for some you may have to digest what people write more so than others but what Pearson wrote was plainly obvious.'"
What he wrote can't have been that obvious as both you and SirStan have misinterpreted it fairly fundamentally.
Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"For fans that turn up ad-hoc why should they care how much or if there's a discount, to wait to attend only games (one or two if you're lucky) if a discount is offered is just a nonsense.
You turn up when you can or when you feel like it, whatever the prevailing price is is what you pay. If you don't like the full price don't attend, that's your option.
For Pearson to make such a statement about discounting is just solely to push the pass sales, IMO he doesn't need to mention discounted games not happening, in fact it just makes the statement look negative. For sure mention about £5 friend or child with a season pass holder, the second bit just came across as agressive in its nature and was contadictory.'"
Cobblers. Fans who don't buy passes choose which games to attend for all sorts of reason - one of which will be whether or not cheap tickets are available. Now they know that no cheap tickets will be available unless you're a passholder or know one who will take you as a 'friend'. Far better to be pre-warned than find out mid-season that no cheap tickets are on offer - maybe a few of them will buy passes now instead.
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| many season ticket holders complained last season about the offers, myself wasn't too bothered, glad we still get to take advantage of the friend for a fiver offer though
even though we are not doing any offers, I still would have liked to see one game, apart from the derby game, ear marked as the big one like wigan do
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| Got mine today . West stand as per usual COYH
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| Got our three this week. Going around the block again.
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| If fans don't want to get or renew they passes that they choice some fans cannot afford to get a pass.My choice was to renew because it save me money.I cannot see the point in falling out with other posters over the matter.
I just need my fix of rugby league.Other posters to them money could be tight and cannot afford to get a pass so it's
they choice to pick they games.There is no shame in that;that the hardship in life this day and age.Only to glad my working days are over I feel sorry for the young ones trying to get jobs and other people out of work.
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| Got 3 more to buy at the end of the month, making our usual 5.
There'll be 4 shirts too, love the design and the way we're going about things.
Compare this to the he-man-woman thing's regime and we're streets ahead - just need to get it right on the pitch. One things for sure. we know Adam Pearson will not stand for second best.
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| giving discounts for games devalues the product so I'm glad they've gone, either buy a season pass or don't & don't expect any discounts.Bradford & hudds amongt others I'm sure massively discounted their season passes and/or individual games (Hudds game was free I think against Leeds a couple of years ago) & it didn't increase their average gates at all so they lost money.
The RFL found that to their cost by giving away the title sponsorship for pretty much nothing that discounting doesn't work for bringing in punters long term..
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| 4484 sold by this point last year
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"4484 sold by this point last year'"
You kept a spreadsheet? ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"4484 sold by this point last year'"
Rovers sold 6900 passes in 2009. Given your ground expansion off the back of this, presumably 7500 is your minimum target.
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| Getting mine today, going unreserved and giving my reserved seat up as my little boy comes each week now.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Rovers sold 6900 passes in 2009. Given your ground expansion off the back of this, presumably 7500 is your minimum target.'"
I don't know? Is it? ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"I don't know? Is it?
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Well, it would seem a bit stupid to take on a £2m liability for a new stand only to sell less passes than before it was built, so I'm being quite reasonable.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Well, it would seem a bit stupid to take on a £2m liability for a new stand only to sell less passes than before it was built, so I'm being quite reasonable.'"
I've hit my target of 1 so I am happy.
You never know they might take on more liabilities at the south end soon.
Crikey!!!
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"I've hit my target of 1 so I am happy.
You never know [uthey might take on more liabilities[/u at the south end soon.
Crikey!!!'"
Like Cockayne on a long term deal, you mean? Wow.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Like Cockayne on a long term deal, you mean? Wow.'"
3 years if we can remember where we've put the contract
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| Has the pass sales thing been updated yet ?
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Nope I copied it off a thread in the general RL forum on our secret message board, I'm sure you'll have already seen it
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Never been on there.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"4484 sold by this point last year'"
How many have you sold?
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"How many have you sold?'"
Me? None
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| Think it's best to ignore this guy from now on ![STUPID icon_iamwithstupid.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_iamwithstupid.gif)
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