Really struggling to see any positives at the moment, struggling for money, stuck in a half empty ground that is threatening our future, with just about the slowest squad I have ever seen at the club.

Massive doubts about Hodgson for me too, not seeing any improvements to the end of the Radford and then Last days. Maybe he's too 'nice' to the players?

Both sets of fans are too obsessed with the Derby, nearly every one since it returned in 2007 has been a mid table contest. One playoff derby in 15 seasons says it all (and we even lost that!)

Yes it's by far each clubs biggest revenue maker and yes it hurts when you lose one...but surely both clubs want the dream of a top4/playoff/cup final derby not a scrap for 7th place like it often is.

Brad Fash 8 games?

My favourite coach out of those named by a country mile.

Many former players say he is the best they played for, he was unlucky that we got an awful injury run on 2008.

But yes we always seem to go for untested assistants, we probably can't even afford to pay Hodgson off anyway, so not a lot of point speculating

For sure.

Loved by the players but not by the Hetheringtons. Treat very shabbily by the board.

Spot on.

Can't have any complaints.

And left out to dry with the Cooke fiasco.

Hope not he will make Johnstone club captain

People dont use this forum in the numbers previously is nothing to do with HKR keyboard warriors its because anyone who dares to criticise a player or the club is shouted down by the clicky club gang on here with their childish emogi responses instead of offering their opinions for discussion

Need to take stock. My alcohol fuelled anger has subsided slightly. A derby defeat is not a disgrace but the manner of it was. There's nothing we can do until the of season before we make big changes. One advantage is that we can release some of the underperforming big earners and rebuild the squad. Replace them with potential not has-beens.

Position wise we are about par. Lets get through the season aim for the top six and at least put in some decent performances.

Bad times at the moment but as fans we need to get behind the team.

I would agree recruiting some players with potential is the way forward. However when we did that over the last two years a number of FC fans derided that approach and pointed to the experienced players the Airlie Birds were signing.

If I remember correctly Peter Sharp was asked a question by the radio media and with his sense of humour said he could retire to his beach house?

or could be they dont use it because fed up with people no names mentioned having a pop if they dare to have anything positive to say, childish emogi oh silly me i thought they was there to use, somebody needs to take there sense of humour pill,

Wonder if Last would return.

I liked the way he spoke in interviews, and the players seemed to respect him, seemed like he didn't take any e, and had the sense to put Houghton on the bench when out of form.

I don't think he d pussyfoot around the big egos.

No thanks - have we not leaned - no more first time head coaches. We need someone with experience. I've had enough of us being a training school for coaches - not that any of them have gone on to great success elsewhere.

Been saying this for atleast 10 years

Our fans celebrating under the concourse at magic weekend anytime we play rovers

Yet Wembley not even half like that

Got it wrong way round

Last week hardly any build up to our quarter final.... People were talking like this game was bigger

But we keep giving the deadwood new deals

Taylor has been crocked for 4 years

Houghton - saints, wire, catalan, Wigan, Cas, rovers, Leeds hooker are all better than him

Players like swift are ok but how are we expected to challenge saints etc signing their rejects?

Yep I remember that. Didn't go down too well.

People can enjoy whatever game they want. Why does it bother you?

So it's not a bit strange people prefaring a run of the mill early season game to a major quarter final....



What's the world coming to

I mean it's already full of snowflakes sure we all agree with that

Some awful stats

17 errors
50 missed tackles (Reynolds 8, Sao 7)
Evans 4 hit ups

Not pretty reading at all.

52% completion rate and penalties as well

Is this really the best BH can get out of the team in 2 must win games !!

no better than LR

I’ve kept my council since the Huddersfield quarter final, in that game which was so important regarding future financial rewards alone, we were so flat, and in truth we never looked like winning, I’ve rarely seen a challenge cup game in memory which we seemed to have no enthusiasm for, and ultimately got what we deserved.

The Derby was like ground hog day, beaten by a much more committed team, out enthused, and alarmingly we offered virtually no threat again.

It saddens me to say, the recruiting of Reynolds, Gale, and Hodgson has been a disaster, I don’t know if it’s James Clark sanctioning these signings, but the majority of rugby league supporters could of told him these two halves were finished, no cohesion in the team, and seemingly no grey matter, no threat or strike anywhere on the park, the two most important games of the season so far, we have failed miserably.

I said last season, I’ve seen no discernible change or improvement in our play since Brett took over, in fact we are in decline, no pace, no timing, stop Jake and we offer no recognisable form of footie whatsoever, rudderless, clueless.