Lam went down in my estimation today. Utterly ungracious in defeat and did not even mention Hull. Clearly totally bought in to the Wigan culture of entitlement and arrogance.

Did you not watch his interview after the Grand Final, same script, all about how about best team lost and they deserved to win, no mention of SaInts, hardly surprising it was no different after the Hull game.

My word we deserved that today after a week of adversity!!

Can't wait to give the players a massive, loud and passionate rendition of Old Faithful next week!!

That usually happens with Lam when he is out coached and today he was outsmarted by a rookie Coach who is making the game sit up and take notice. I am surprised that no one has given any raps to Gareth Ellis our defensive Coach as well. He is also in his first year of Coaching but has produced almost 'over night' the British games current top defence.

another brilliant showing again today!

The RFL have to look at the whole Referee situation.

Today is a perfect example:
Brown dangerous tackle: Penalty and Sin Bin
Powell same dangerous tackle: Penalty only
Late Wigan tackle on Hodgson: Penalty only
Watts’ Late shoulder charge on Salford player: Penalty and Sin Bin
One minute later, Salford player rams forearm in the face of Cas player on ground: Penalty only

Both these games, plus last nights, had a Referee, Linesman and miked up to the Video Ref (who obviously advises on some incidents)

All we need is one rule book, one interpretation and a consistent decision, regardless of which team it is. It doesn’t matter which official makes the decision, just give us the right decision.

Satae was praising Gaz in his post match interview.

Can't say that I have watched paint dry

https://twitter.com/HumbersideSport/sta ... 59842?s=19 Like what BH says here about us looking like we were enjoying the defensive grind. That's what Wigan have been famous for, a good sign given our limited personnel in the pack. Some credit to Lane and Cator who've taken on the engine room role - local lads that love the club and are nailing down their automatic selection credentials.

https://twitter.com/HumbersideSport/sta ... 59842?s=19 Like what BH says here about us looking like we were enjoying the defensive grind. That's what Wigan have been famous for, a good sign given our limited personnel in the pack. Some credit to Lane and Cator who've taken on the engine room role - local lads that love the club and are nailing down their automatic selection credentials.

Well played guys thoroughly deserved.

Hull 2021 have a Wigan 2010 vibe.

Sleeping giant who were too inconsistent

Aussie head coach in to take the mentality to another level.

Only one signing (Reynolds and Paul Deacon).

Good luck in the rest of the comp!

Great defensive effort and swift was great at full back not sure how connor can get back in given it was him who cost us the match at Wigan

We can beat saints who haven't set the world alight this season but need to be on it

But gotta say the game its self was awful lost count how many mistakes and penalties their was! Worst game of rugby I've seen for a while

Did we get a penalty on the Powell tackle? I thought Hicks just carried on the tackle count after he got treatment , as it was the 5th tackle

Not watched it again, but Sam Powell wasn’t penalised.

Yep, happened just as you described, absolutely atrocious.

Connor has to come back in, our most creative player, his link up play with Reynolds in the first two games was the only time we have really clicked in attack. We never looked like scoring yesterday from creative play, the barge over is fine but we need other options which Connor provides.

Regarding the tackles by Powell and Brown, I’d argue that Powell’s was actually worse as he attacked the knees from the side which is not in the normal direction of the joint. Browns tackle was from behind the knees in the direction the knee joints.

Hicks stopped the game yet then gave no penalty, no linesman called it neither the VR. Yet Browns was deemed not only a penalty but also a yellow. This all in the same game along with a high shot by Farrell on Griff causing him to fail a head assessment yet surprisingly nothing given even though Hicks saw it and ignored it.

Moving on to the Cas v Salford there was another tackle exactly the same as Brown by Salford on a Cas player and not anything given again.

So either Hicks made an big error with the Brown penalty compounding it with a yellow or he made an error with the Powell one and Thaler again the same error in the Cas v Salford game.

Either way these 3 incidents alone show just how poor and inconsistent the officials are currently yet the RFL seem to do nothing to improve this. I’d also argue the Farrell high shot on Griff which was direct contact with the head was no less reckless than the one Connor made on Hardaker. So be interesting if the RFL and the blind disciplinary panel will do anything on this.

I won't hold my breath for that to happen.

An excellent analysis of the incidents that all took place on the same day in front of the cameras and for the fans watching so we can obviously look forward to a statement from the RFL explaining the inept interpratation of the rules and an apology to Jack Brown. They won't ignore this opportunity to make things clear will they, well done Chtris.

Apologies from my earlier post, no penalty with the Powell incident. This just makes the whole incident to worse.

All these incidents should be addressed collectively tomorrow. This should carry a straight two match ban.

Going forward, it should be a direct sin bin offence and a two match ban. That might then focus the minds of all the players and the referees. If the referees don’t follow this action in the game, then they should also cop a two match ban themselves.

I'd imagine Brown will pick up a two match ban so it's a straight swap for the Catalans game with Fash back in after his ban.

You can't help feel that this shows further that certain clubs constantly get away with things that other clubs don't it occurs too often to be a coincidence. 2 nearly identical tackles around the legs hull concede a penalty and 10 mins and Wigan concede nothing.

Connor and farrells high tackles very similar, farrells was arguably worse as Griffin failed a head test, maybe Griffin should have got up and started throwing verbals and crying to the ref like the worlds best fullback did last week. Connor gets 10 mins and again Wigan don't concede a penalty.

Maybe it's refs are scared to penalise and make big calls against the bigger clubs or maybe its just incompetence but 2 nearly identical incidents in 2 weeks and only one team is punished makes you think.

Hull FC are so impressive, performance improvement game on game as the play book message become reality. Where we are today is everything we could have hoped for in just a handfull of games. So, it’s still early days really, but we were like a machine yesterday against a team big on history and favours. I’m wondering......could there be more improvement to come ?
If there is, my word, we are going to be so hard to knock over and fingers crossed we could just be at the start of a very special period in FC history. I just hope the Hodgson Ellis combo is ours for the long term and the start of a legacy.

Gaskell was on report for a similar tackle on Thursday as well. Given that the Disciplinary Panel have to look at that and the Brown tackle it will be interesting to see if they look at the Powell tackle as well - and telling if they do not.

It will certainly be interesting what the RFL and disciplinary panel will do and see how they deal with 3 incidents that all were almost identical, Browns tackle and the one by Salford were pretty much identical but one a penalty and sin bin the other nothing. Then the Powell one which was the worst of the 3 again no penalty and Powell has a habit of this technique.

So all 3 on the same day in full view of officials and TV cameras.

But no doubt after such a great job with the Savelio/Clubb situation I can only think of another mess in the making.

I’d say Browns tackle was the same as the one Fash was pinged for against Huddersfield (IIRC?) and he was given a caution by the panel as it was deemed he hadn’t put the joint in an unnormal direction or words to that affect.

I know the officials have a hard job but the incidents on show in the games yesterday really do high light the big inconsistencies not only game to game with different officials but more worryingly by the same officials in the same game which are just too frequent to not address or ignore.

We played the conditions well yesterday.
The improvement has to come from our attack and not just rely on barge overs and i am certain it will once we get Reynolds back to full fitness and Connor back at full back.
Just wish we had some real pace in our backs

There will certainly be grounds for appeal if Brown is banned and Powell isnt given the same punishment especially as Brown was sent the sin bin.