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| Quote ="bonaire"What we are asking for as fans is consistency.
Thats the challenge for a new coach and it wont be Last.'"
I'm all for it but I think he's done a good job for the hand he was given. Just don't think people need to be calling for his head, he is a decent guy to have a round.
He is certainly made us play better and tonight was a step too far. The new coach will inherit a better squad tonight then if he took over in March.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"Biggest game of not just this season but the last 3, and while we came out with plenty of enthusiasm we look like we haven't prepared at all and have no game plan.'"
Interesting comment that, I thought well before the end that we were perhaps a tad outcoached tonight. That said Andy has done a fabulous job this year in the most difficult of circumstances and he should be applauded for that but I'm sure we had a good game plan but they were just one step ahead of us all night and we couldn't change it.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Missed that what did he say?'"
Last was very down beat, naturally because we’d lost.
When asked about being Coach next season, he just said he was still contracted for next season, but hadn’t had any conversations about being Coach, though expected to have them in the next couple of weeks.
However, none of his previous post match comments about wanting the job and that every game was an interview.
Just sounded like he’s already been told he’s the Assistant Coach next season.
If so, he did steady the ship and improve peformances and gave us something to cheer about prior to tonight’s game.
Andy’s a good bloke who stepped in during difficult circumstances and did well. However, at the end of the day I think we need a more experienced coach who can take us that extra step forward.
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| I think the fact we looked so disjointed was a lot down to Wigan in fairness. They don't give you any time or space to play and we couldn't really cope. We also didn't really have much time on their line between minutes 20-70 so when we got there we tried a bit too hard.
Plenty of industry, just a little shy on quality.
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| I think tonight for me showed why Wigan will win the Grand Final - their defensive intensity. It is constant, relentless, but that doesn't mean that we should just give up or adapt a game plan to counter that. We had no Plan B. It was very Radford-esque...if we couldn't go through them, next time we will try to go through them.
Sneyd very average. People laud his kicking game, but for me, its pretty poor. Finds the full back consistently, not enough distance or height on his kicks.
Taylor and Sao were fantastic. Ratu at fault for the Burgess try and was pretty anonymous tonight.
The referree was appalling. He didn't affect the winners of the game, but definitely the scoreline. Off the top of my head I can pick out 5 or 6 glaring decisions that were incorrect and what they do is affect momentum, or they tire the players out with repeat sets, or the loss of 30-40metres, or tries that would have been scored getting pulled back.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3" Ratu at fault for the Burgess try and was pretty anonymous tonight.
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Ratu's biggest failing is trying to solve defensive problems that don't exist. Once again tonight he comes inside when his centre has the situation covered.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Not sure what Griffin hoped to achieve by it, I've no problem with the penalty just question the consistency of it.
We've just struggled with the line speed that's all and everything Wigan have tried has come off.'"
IT WAS NEVER A PENALTY. KENDAL’s DECISION TO PENALISE HULL. ITS A SEMI FINAL- SHOULD SPOKEN TO THE PLAYERS
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| It is a penalty infringement and has been since half way through last season. Griffin's fault not the referee's.
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| Quote ="Plum Bob"Quote ="pmarrow"Not sure what Griffin hoped to achieve by it, I've no problem with the penalty just question the consistency of it.
We've just struggled with the line speed that's all and everything Wigan have tried has come off.'"
IT WAS NEVER A PENALTY. KENDAL’s DECISION TO PENALISE HULL. ITS A SEMI FINAL- SHOULD SPOKEN TO THE PLAYERS'"
Question is why was Kendall given a game after the serious errors he made last week in failing to see anything wrong in McIlorums effort on Dwyer and Tomkins.
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Quote ="Father Ted"It is a penalty infringement and has been since half way through last season. Griffin's fault not the referee's.'"
It wasn't 2 weeks ago when Singleton did it to Regan Grace. Consistency and all that.....
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"[*
It wasn't 2 weeks ago when Singleton did it to Regan Grace. Consistency and all that.....'"
He didn't mate. He clapped his error but he never touched him. We also had Gildart penalised and sinbinned for the same offence last season. In fact Griffin's was far worse as he ran in from a distance and decided to knock out a few bars of 'When The Levee Breaks' on Partington's head. The ref's are infuriatingly inconsistent on most things and this is just the same. I could point to the forearm into Isa's face as one that should have been given but wasn't. Griffin's fault..no one else's.
Anyway, good effort by your lads, especially in the first 20. Also class in giving O'Loughlin the send off at the end. Most importantly thanks for finding your best form against Wire last week. I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed that!
Good luck in your search for a new coach. Hope you get the right man.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"He didn't mate. He clapped his error but he never touched him. We also had Gildart penalised and sinbinned for the same offence last season. In fact Griffin's was far worse as he ran in from a distance and decided to knock out a few bars of 'When The Levee Breaks' on Partington's head. The ref's are infuriatingly inconsistent on most things and this is just the same. I could point to the forearm into Isa's face as one that should have been given but wasn't. Griffin's fault..no one else's.
Anyway, good effort by your lads, especially in the first 20. Also class in giving O'Loughlin the send off at the end. Most importantly thanks for finding your best form against Wire last week. I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed that!
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Good luck in your search for a new coach. Hope you get the right man.'"
You have picked up on the salient point as to why the referee penalised Griffin ie for running in and even pushing through Hull players to get to and pat Partington on the head. On the first pat Kendall blew a penalty and the handbags continued with Isa, who made the error, well away holding the ball and laughing at the rumpus. A complete brain snap from Griffin which achieved nothing except to change the momentum of the game and Wigan scored 2 tries soon after.
Well done to your side who were deserving winners and the best of luck in next weeks final.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I agree it was daft from Griffin but your patience, defence and execution were a playoff lesson - over the 80 minutes you dominated every aspect of the game. Top performance from the benchmark club.
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100% the benchmark club. That's why I'd like Wane as our new coach with Last as his assistant.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"100% the benchmark club. That's why I'd like Wane as our new coach with Last as his assistant.'"
Works for me.
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| Amongst the stats from last night. 6 Wigan players >100m, only Bureta for us.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Amongst the stats from last night. 6 Wigan players >100m, only Bureta for us.'"
We were second best by a long way.
Considering the non-attendance element we can't really complain that we haven't had a good go on the fairground ride.
Ups and downs but its rarely dull with us.
Got too long a break now for my liking but we dust ourselves down and go again in 2021. ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="WIZEB"We were second best by a long way.
Considering the non-attendance element we can't really complain that we haven't had a good go on the fairground ride.
Ups and downs but its rarely dull with us.
Got too long a break now for my liking but we dust ourselves down and go again in 2021.
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4 months.
Lots to look forward to in between times though. ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Interesting comment that, I thought well before the end that we were perhaps a tad outcoached tonight. That said Andy has done a fabulous job this year in the most difficult of circumstances and he should be applauded for that but I'm sure we had a good game plan but they were just one step ahead of us all night and we couldn't change it.'"
Agree with all that Wilf,but we only seem to have one game plan so it's difficult to change.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Interesting comment that, I thought well before the end that we were perhaps a tad outcoached tonight. That said Andy has done a fabulous job this year in the most difficult of circumstances and he should be applauded for that but I'm sure we had a good game plan but they were just one step ahead of us all night and we couldn't change it.'"
I’m trying to work out what the most difficult of circumstances are, Taking over from Radford? How is 5 drives and a kick a good game plan. The only time we opened Wigan and should have scored up was right at the end when the game was gone.
Andy Last is not a head coach.
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| Quote ="Plum Bob"IT WAS NEVER A PENALTY. KENDAL’s DECISION TO PENALISE HULL. ITS A SEMI FINAL- SHOULD SPOKEN TO THE PLAYERS'"
Yes it is a penalty. Then again why let facts get in the way of another ref bashing.
The 6th place team were comprehensively beaten by the 1st place team. The over reaction and desperation shown on here is laughable.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Amongst the stats from last night. 6 Wigan players >100m, only Bureta for us.'"
Where have you seen these? got a link?
cheers.
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| We were going well up until Griffin's ridiculous antics, He made himself look a right idiot. If someone did that to Connor to goad him people would be up in arms.
Non of the 50/50's went our way unlike last week and the refereeing left a lot to desired but that isn't why we lost. The best team won on the night. The scoreline was hard to take, more so because we were really building into the game and looked the stronger of the teams up until that moment.
The second half ran away from us with no game management what so ever. how many times did the ball end up in the wrong persons hands on the last tackle resulting in a poor end to the set or panicked passing resulting in lost possession? We tried but it just wasn't happening. I'd have taken it a month ago though. Time to move on now with a total fresh set of ideas and ethics.
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| Decent first quarter then it was a Pies masterclass. No issues from me.
As for Lasty, he is not a head coach, he is not a leader of men. I've been saying for sometime the whole backroom old boys network needs a clear out. We need a fresh start, no idea who though.
Roll on 2021 and getting back to games home and away. Hope Toulouse come in too.
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| Quote ="mosher"Decent first quarter then it was a Pies masterclass. No issues from me.
As for Lasty, he is not a head coach, he is not a leader of men. I've been saying for sometime the whole backroom old boys network needs a clear out. We need a fresh start, no idea who though.
Roll on 2021 and getting back to games home and away. Hope Toulouse come in too.'"
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Toulouse nailed on to enter S/L next year
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