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Quote ="sanjunien"no apology required - I quite agree about the surrender monkey bit - the french would sell their own granny to save their skins
probably a bit different tho' when a huge war machine is overrunning your homeland and you have no effective defences maybe ?
what would I do to protect my family ? well,probably surrender.....
check out - www.oradour.info/
we are about ten kms from this place - a 'must see' place to understand what makes you surrender......
regarding the cheese - most of the french cheese is mass produced and full of E numbers so it's much more fun finding the homemade products,probably like the uk ?'"
(this is thread drift, apologies)
I have a good friend who runs a dairy/fromagerie on the French/Swiss border above Avoriaz and he bemoans the same thing.
the French are adept at trying to pick the winning side at the last minute, I particulalrly like googling "French Military Victories".........
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Quote ="sanjunien"no apology required - I quite agree about the surrender monkey bit - the french would sell their own granny to save their skins
probably a bit different tho' when a huge war machine is overrunning your homeland and you have no effective defences maybe ?
what would I do to protect my family ? well,probably surrender.....
check out - www.oradour.info/
we are about ten kms from this place - a 'must see' place to understand what makes you surrender......
regarding the cheese - most of the french cheese is mass produced and full of E numbers so it's much more fun finding the homemade products,probably like the uk ?'"
(this is thread drift, apologies)
I have a good friend who runs a dairy/fromagerie on the French/Swiss border above Avoriaz and he bemoans the same thing.
the French are adept at trying to pick the winning side at the last minute, I particulalrly like googling "French Military Victories".........
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| Quote ="number 6"perpignan don't have any flights available this time of the year, carcasonne is the nearest, come summer, would expect teams to fly direct to perpignan'"
you're talking scheduled flights, not private charter.
anyway, in honesty it matters not, even if the game had been cancelled 2 weeks in advance most people's flights (and more than 50%'s accommodation) would have been non refundable (not that it makes it any less frustrating about the late decision to call it off, or the idiotic idea of watering the pitch)
it's a bit like hosing down the steps when it's -1 already!
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| Quote ="Standee"you're talking scheduled flights, not private charter.
anyway, in honesty it matters not, even if the game had been cancelled 2 weeks in advance most people's flights (and more than 50%'s accommodation) would have been non refundable (not that it makes it any less frustrating about the late decision to call it off, or the idiotic idea of watering the pitch)
it's a bit like hosing down the steps when it's -1 already!'"
apart from daddy warbucks at warrington, i doubt many ther chairmen or boards at other teams would be willing to pay for a chartered flight
if we knew that the game was cancelled earlier, like many have said that some knew on tuesday the pitch was unfit for play, we could have cancelled our hotels without losing any money, flights we could have changed to a later date at a small cost, or risked losing the money on them
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| Can't we play them away on Easter Sunday?
Three away games in four days!!! Easy!
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| Quote ="number 6"apart from daddy warbucks at warrington, i doubt many ther chairmen or boards at other teams would be willing to pay for a chartered flight
if we knew that the game was cancelled earlier, like many have said that some knew on tuesday the pitch was unfit for play, we could have cancelled our hotels without losing any money, flights we could have changed to a later date at a small cost, or risked losing the money on them'"
you can't change MOST flight dates, nor could you have probably cancelled hotels at short notice
as much as I sympathise, be realistic, the ash cloud a few years ago caused a lot more people to lose a lot more money.
and the RFL pay for teams flights, if they cant pay for chartered maybe they need to rethink Catalans involvement in the league, 300 FC fans t £100 each is £30k, I can charter a flight for 40 people for that from the UK to wherever I want in France (outside of the major hubs)
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| I still don't get why the Exiles weekend is off limits. McNamara probably sees a lot of the Hull clubs players anyway, quite what he'd miss if a couple (at most) of our players were unavailable, I'm not sure. From the Exiles point of view, don't think any of ours would be selected. The only reason to not play it that weekend would be if France get a game.
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| Quote ="Standee"(this is thread drift, apologies)
I have a good friend who runs a dairy/fromagerie on the French/Swiss border above Avoriaz and he bemoans the same thing.
the French are adept at trying to pick the winning side at the last minute, I particulalrly like googling "French Military Victories".........'"
yeah,they are very good at sitting on the fence until the moment arrives when they have to choose a side to go with
they have always been very cagey with committing their alleigance to one cause or another so it was amazing to see their determination to ban the burkha wit all the consequences it could provoke
I would imagine the 'French Military Victories' page is quite short .....
still a great place to be though and I wouldn't swap it for the world
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| Quote ="sanjunien"yeah,they are very good at sitting on the fence until the moment arrives when they have to choose a side to go with
they have always been very cagey with committing their alleigance to one cause or another so it was amazing to see their determination to ban the burkha wit all the consequences it could provoke
I would imagine the 'French Military Victories' page is quite short .....
still a great place to be though and I wouldn't swap it for the world
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it's a wonderful place, I'd move to Champagny in a heart beat, the UK is screwed (see The Sin Bin for details) alas I have 4 more years from July until I pack in work.
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| Quote ="number 6"apart from daddy warbucks at warrington, i doubt many ther chairmen or boards at other teams would be willing to pay for a chartered flight
if we knew that the game was cancelled earlier, like many have said that some knew on tuesday the pitch was unfit for play, we could have cancelled our hotels without losing any money, flights we could have changed to a later date at a small cost, or risked losing the money on them'"
I was led to believe that an SL game couldn't be cancelled before 24 hours before the game ? so anyone arriving in Perpignan a couple of days or so beforehand haven't a leg to stand on - terefore the Hull game could only have ben called off after 1830 on the friday evening...
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| Quote ="Standee"you can't change MOST flight dates, nor could you have probably cancelled hotels at short notice
as much as I sympathise, be realistic, the ash cloud a few years ago caused a lot more people to lose a lot more money.
and the RFL pay for teams flights, if they cant pay for chartered maybe they need to rethink Catalans involvement in the league, 300 FC fans t £100 each is £30k, I can charter a flight for 40 people for that from the UK to wherever I want in France (outside of the major hubs)'"
you can change flight details, a friend did as long as they didnt cancel, also hotels too, we booked with free cancellation upto 24 hours before check in, also know of others who did the same
thought i read somewhere the rfl subsidise clubs upto £3000 for their trips to france
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| Quote ="sanjunien"I was led to believe that an SL game couldn't be cancelled before 24 hours before the game ? so anyone arriving in Perpignan a couple of days or so beforehand haven't a leg to stand on - terefore the Hull game could only have ben called off after 1830 on the friday evening...'"
yup, you're right
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| Quote ="sanjunien"I was led to believe that an SL game couldn't be cancelled before 24 hours before the game ? so anyone arriving in Perpignan a couple of days or so beforehand haven't a leg to stand on - terefore the Hull game could only have ben called off after 1830 on the friday evening...'"
the rumours about the pitch not being fit were just that, but if they were true, we would've cancelled and cut our losses with the airfare and got our hotel money back and also saving £200 on spending money
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| Quote ="Standee"it's a wonderful place, I'd move to Champagny in a heart beat, the UK is screwed (see The Sin Bin for details) alas I have 4 more years from July until I pack in work.'"
don't blame you mate,a beautiful part of the world - been a bit nippy lately though !!!
my mate lives not too far away and he reckons it went down to -20° ish some nights !
just under four years for me until I get my french pension - still in work so I should make it ok tho' you never know what's around the corner....
re- the Hull game
it was a one off - we had the same conditions for last seasons game against Saints with the icy wind but the pitch hadn't been watered - if it had the game would have been cancelled also along with the Wakey friendly a couple of weeks earlier.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I still don't get why the Exiles weekend is off limits. McNamara probably sees a lot of the Hull clubs players anyway, quite what he'd miss if a couple (at most) of our players were unavailable, I'm not sure. From the Exiles point of view, don't think any of ours would be selected. The only reason to not play it that weekend would be if France get a game.'"
although it would mean missing the exiles game and possibly the knights match, i would rather we play this weekend than in early august due to not being able to have holidays! call me selfish but i've already beed done over once lol
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| Quote ="number 6"the rumours about the pitch not being fit were just that, but if they were true, we would've cancelled and cut our losses with the airfare and got our hotel money back and also saving £200 on spending money'"
there was a lot of cold weather around but nothing to stop games being played as most of the local LER games in the area (Pia & UTC etc) went ahead as normal
the damage was done by an incompetant groundsman,simple as that
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| Quote ="sanjunien"there was a lot of cold weather around but nothing to stop games being played as most of the local LER games in the area (Pia & UTC etc) went ahead as normal
the damage was done by an incompetant groundsman,simple as that'"
simple solution would have been to water the ground upto thursday if it the pitch was too hard, leave it friday and saturday
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| Taken from Cas forum
Catalans have now invested in covers and blowers, this weekends game has been brought forward to 3.30pm KO (forecast is +12!!) and there offering 2 beers for the price of between 1.30 - 2.30.
Obviously trying to show the RFL that lessons have been learnt. If we have to go back to France midweek (as Bomber has alluded to) it would be a disgrace. Fans should be considered in the rescheduled date. As has already been mentioned the August KC fixture should now be played in France and the re-arranged midweek game should be played at the KC when Cats are already over here.
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| Quote ="number 6"simple solution would have been to water the ground upto thursday if it the pitch was too hard, leave it friday and saturday'"
the pitch shouldn't have been touched at all - there would have been enough moisture in the ground to make it perfectly playable - another big problem is that the french seem to enjoy playing their games late afternoon/early evening in the winter months which is ridiculous - KO should be at about 1500 until april IMO
It gets really chilly when the sun goes down and is bad for all concerned,players & fans alike.
Fortunately TO13 have rearranged their NRC game with Keighley on saturday for 1630 (still too late IMO) instead of the usual 1900 which is a ridiculous time to start playing in winter
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| Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"Taken from Cas forum
Catalans have now invested in covers and blowers, this weekends game has been brought forward to 3.30pm KO (forecast is +12!!) and there offering 2 beers for the price of between 1.30 - 2.30.
Obviously trying to show the RFL that lessons have been learnt. If we have to go back to France midweek (as Bomber has alluded to) it would be a disgrace. Fans should be considered in the rescheduled date. As has already been mentioned the August KC fixture should now be played in France and the re-arranged midweek game should be played at the KC when Cats are already over here.'"
i doubt the fixture switch will happen, we mentioned it before going out to france about being given february, april and early may in the last 3 years, simple reason is the players don't want to play in the weather as it is too hot! june or september is their preferred summer fixtures
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| Quote ="number 6"i doubt the fixture switch will happen, we mentioned it before going out to france about being given february, april and early may in the last 3 years, simple reason is the players don't want to play in the weather as it is too hot! june or september is their preferred summer fixtures'"
Doubt the view of the players would determine when we play. None of the SL teams would want to play July / Aug which is not ideal due to the heat. As fans we want a happy medium of the weather being warm but not too tough on the players so I'd be happy with June or September any time. It would not surprise me however if the RFL give FC their choice of fixture next season after this cock up so expect to see a March / April fixture in 2013
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| Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"Doubt the view of the players would determine when we play. None of the SL teams would want to play July / Aug which is not ideal due to the heat. As fans we want a happy medium of the weather being warm but not too tough on the players so I'd be happy with June or September any time. It would not surprise me however if the RFL give FC their choice of fixture next season after this cock up so expect to see a March / April fixture in 2013'"
we went in 2008/9 when we played in beziers, it didnt drop below 35 degrees all the time we were there, mid august, even i found that too much! june would be my preferred fixture, but like you say, we'll end up with a cooler climate fixture
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| Quote ="number 6"we went in 2008/9 when we played in beziers, it didnt drop below 35 degrees all the time we were there, mid august, even i found that too much! june would be my preferred fixture, but like you say, we'll end up with a cooler climate fixture'"
Don't start me on Bezier!! We arrived at our Hotel at 8pm to find our accomodation had been cancelled, with the festivals going on there was no accomodation anywhere. We got booked in on a motorway junction on the outskirts of Perpignan which only had that night free and next day the only option was to drive to Spain and we ended up in Tossa de Mar for 4 nights and had a 5 hour round trip on match day. Although as they say every cloud....we now never spend more than 1 night in France and stay in Spain instead at a snip of the price for accomodation and beer. A lot went wrong on this trip (their were other minor disasters) but funily enough it's the one we all enjoyed the most (apart from losing to Catalans).
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| Not seen your fixtures but what about 5th June if it has to be midweek. That is the Tuesday Bank Holiday of the Queens Jubilee.
I would be fuming if I had travelled to France and the game was called off.
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| We should refuse to travel again and make the RFL decide who to award the points to.
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| I hope the day come Rovers cant host an SL game.........
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