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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Those wanting to bin Berrigan are even odder and clearly have serious deficiences when evaluating a players abilities.'"
Agree. And if it means Lee going than so be it we have 2 hookers better at the club imo.
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| Quote ="Suzie"Agree. And if it means Lee going than so be it we have 2 hookers better at the club imo.'"
Without wanting to get into a long winded argument i'd be more inclined to take Lee over Houghton. Much as i rate Danny i think Tom has a better all round skill set, though if Berrigan is going to be starting hooker Houghton will be better off the bench than would Tom.
Its a tough call purely on ability, but being as Tom is ooc i suspect it will be him who misses out on a renewal.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Without wanting to get into a long winded argument i'd be more inclined to take Lee over Houghton. Much as i rate Danny i think Tom has a better all round skill set, though if Berrigan is going to be starting hooker Houghton will be better off the bench than would Tom.
Its a tough call purely on ability, but being as Tom is ooc i suspect it will be him who misses out on a renewal.'"
Which skills do you think Lee is better at than Houghton?
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Without wanting to get into a long winded argument i'd be more inclined to take Lee over Houghton. Much as i rate Danny i think Tom has a better all round skill set, though if Berrigan is going to be starting hooker Houghton will be better off the bench than would Tom.
Its a tough call purely on ability, but being as Tom is ooc i suspect it will be him who misses out on a renewal.'"
amen to that
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Without wanting to get into a long winded argument i'd be more inclined to take Lee over Houghton. Much as i rate Danny i think Tom has a better all round skill set, though if Berrigan is going to be starting hooker Houghton will be better off the bench than would Tom.
Its a tough call purely on ability, but being as Tom is ooc i suspect it will be him who misses out on a renewal.'"
While I think Lee probably is better than Houghton at the moment, the thing is he's been in and around the first team for a few years now and has never lived up to his potential (although he has got better since they stopped trying to play him at half-back). Houghton, on the other hand, still has more time in hand to realise his potential, and therefore it's him that's deserving of the new contract IMO.
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| Quote ="davey37"Which skills do you think Lee is better at than Houghton?'"
I'm sure we've been down this road before.
IMO he's a better passer of the ball, a slightly better tackler and a better kicker out of dummy half. Houghton's main attribute is his speed around the ruck and though his passing off the floor is improving its still not quite there.
Both players though are still young and therefore still have improvement in them, and are valuable commodities being British so ideally i'd keep them both. But as i've said if one has to go its more likely to be Tom due his contract status.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"I'm sure we've been down this road before.
IMO he's a better passer of the ball, a slightly better tackler and a better kicker out of dummy half. Houghton's main attribute is his speed around the ruck and though his passing off the floor is improving its still not quite there.
Both players though are still young and therefore still have improvement in them, and are valuable commodities being British so ideally i'd keep them both. But as i've said if one has to go its more likely to be Tom due his contract status.'"
The kicking bit i'd certainly disagree with. When he first broke into the team Houghton put in some good kicks and regularly found touch in the oppositions 20. He doesn't seem to have done it as much this season but that's is probably due to lack of game time.
Lee is probably stronger in the tackle but to me Houghton is a better tackler round the ankles.
Little to choose with in the passing department and Houghton is undoubtedly quicker when running from dummy half.
As you can tell. Houghton for me
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| If people are serious about berro being one players in the clearout then they are very bad judge of player . Quality player who has being in a very average team who will even better with better players round him
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| Quote ="davey37"The kicking bit i'd certainly disagree with. When he first broke into the team Houghton put in some good kicks and regularly found touch in the oppositions 20. He doesn't seem to have done it as much this season but that's is probably due to lack of game time.
Lee is probably stronger in the tackle but to me Houghton is a better tackler round the ankles.
Little to choose with in the passing department and Houghton is undoubtedly quicker when running from dummy half.
As you can tell. Houghton for me
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An opinion you're quite entitled to
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| Quote ="The Brother"Yeah your right, maybe he should drive the bus, and and do the coaching , whilst playing on 1 leg as well
Playing on 1 leg and still creates more than Thorman,Horne, wait till next season with a pack around him , can't wait to see a large slice of humble pie eaten'"
No humble pie to eat, ive not said he is a rubbish player. Ive said he hasnt played well for us. I'll stick to that. If i see him playing well i'll say that too. Different opinions mate, thats what lifes all about.
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| Quote ="davey37"Which skills do you think Lee is better at than Houghton?'"
Passing and defence on this seasons evidence. Danny needs to be careful he doesnt turn into a 1 trick pony.
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| Quote ="davey37"Which skills do you think Lee is better at than Houghton?'"
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| Quote ="The Brother"Or Wakefield
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The Salford deal is definately not a done deal yet thats for sure. He wont be an FC player though.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"The Salford deal is definately not a done deal yet thats for sure. He wont be an FC player though.'"
says who? even tommy doesnt know whats happening yet
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"The Salford deal is definately not a done deal yet thats for sure. He wont be an FC player though.'"
I know
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| Quote ="wolfie"says who? even tommy doesnt know whats happening yet'"
His family!!
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| Quote ="davey37"Lee is probably stronger in the tackle but to me Houghton is a better tackler round the ankles.'" Around the ankles is a terrible technique to have and is something Houghton needs to work on.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"His family!!
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Around the ankles is a terrible technique to have and is something Houghton needs to work on.'"
He doesnt dominate in any tackles due to his size. Definately needs to work doubly hard on his defensive technique.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"The Salford deal is definately not a done deal yet thats for sure. He wont be an FC player though.'"
Quite disappointed really. After some dire performances last season Tommy's shown excellent attitude and effort this year.
I really hope we're signing another half back.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Quite disappointed really. After some dire performances last season Tommy's shown excellent attitude and effort this year.
I really hope we're signing another half back.'"
I was disappointed when i heard too and hope its not correct. I'd like Tommy to stay and play 9 but that aint going to happen.
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| Quote ="wolfie"neither do they,the last i spoke to them'"
Maybe they wont tell you in case you put in on here?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"He doesnt dominate in any tackles due to his size. Definately needs to work doubly hard on his defensive technique.'" Its a shame Swain isnt here for Houghton to learn off as he had the abilty to tackle around the legs but still manage to end up in a good position on the ball carrier.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Its a shame Swain isnt here for Houghton to learn off as he had the abilty to tackle around the legs but still manage to end up in a good position on the ball carrier.'"
Yup. Danny could do to watch video after video of swain if he doesnt already.
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