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| Quote ="Hutchie"proportional representation or whatever they call it
If a fans group could get over 2000 members, that would represent approx 1/6th of the average support would it not, so surely deserves 2 places of the 12 or so on FC voices.
Id also question why they need 9 (hope ive counted right) non representative persons on it. Not counted Rich as i know he represents out of town fans'"
FC Voices isn't a representative body, so none of that is relevant.
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| Quote ="Kosh"FC Voices isn't a representative body, so none of that is relevant.'"
Exactly the constitution is not for a member body it is for a group of fans that try their best to help other fans get the most out of supporting their club. As such proportional representation does not come into it because there are no members to judge a proportion of!! Its fine it works.
One representative per organisation is as the group is constituted and unless the members feel that has become obsolete then it stays as it is, simply because its fine and it works.
The fact that when HISA used their place on the group, more often than not no one turned up anyway!
As an asside I would think that an independant supporters group would need at least twice that number of members to be taken seriously by the club, particulally if the leaders were, before it had even been formed, overly concerned about the amount of power and representation they had on other fans organisations!
There are far bigger fish to fry than that, and already it would appear that you are getting bogged down in power issues! Perhaps, just perhaps the new ISA may just need the support of FC Voices and all the other fans organisations in the first instance without allianating them before they even get started!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Exactly the constitution is not for a member body it is for a group of fans that try their best to help other fans get the most out of supporting their club. As such proportional representation does not come into it because there are no members to judge a proportion of!! Its fine it works.
One representative per organisation is as the group is constituted and unless the members feel that has become obsolete then it stays as it is, simply because its fine and it works.
The fact that when HISA used their place on the group, more often than not no one turned up anyway!
As an asside I would think that an independant supporters group would need at least twice that number of members to be taken seriously by the club, particulally if the leaders were, before it had even been formed, overly concerned about the amount of power and representation they had on other fans organisations!
There are far bigger fish to fry than that, and already it would appear that you are getting bogged down in power issues! Perhaps, just perhaps the new ISA may just need the support of FC Voices and all the other fans organisations in the first instance without allianating them before they even get started!'"
Good points Wilf.
I see no reason whatsoever why FC voices should change if the ISA becomes succesful as they would perform different functions IMO. I also see no reason why any fans group would need more than 1 seat on FC voices? Its not like they vote on anything AFAIK so more than one seat wouldn't give any sort of advantage anyway.
If this becomes some sort of power struggle or witch hunt I wont be involved.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"The fact that when HISA used their place on the group, more often than not no one turned up anyway!
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Maybe if the goal posts never moved i would have attended more ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| You just got a mention on Humberside.
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| Quote ="Panda92"You just got a mention on Humberside.'"
What did it say?
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| Quote ="Wollagong Way"What did it say?'"
just advertised it
thanks gwilym
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| Quote ="Hutchie"just advertised it
thanks gwilym'"
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| Quote ="Wollagong Way"What did it say?'"
Mentioned fans unrest, said it was fans meeting up, the name 'Karl Hutchinson' (Sorry if any of that's spelled incorrectly) was mentioned a few times, along with his email address and mobile phone number. I wasn't paying much attention, though.
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| Quote ="Panda92"Mentioned fans unrest, said it was fans reading up, the name 'Karl Hutchinson' (Sorry if any of that's spelled incorrectly) was mentioned a few times, along with his email address and mobile phone number. I wasn't paying much attention, though.'"
you could of just said TOSS POT ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Maybe if the goal posts never moved i would have attended more
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As was the main reason I resigned my position within HISA and to be honest, reading through this topic/posts, I can see the same problems just repeating themselves over again as before.
The I in ISA = Independant and will be seen by the club as a threat, just as before, it'll need a strong Leader and Committee! Who???
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| Quote ="Ian.FCF"The I in ISA = Independant and will be seen by the club as a threat, just as before, it'll need a strong Leader and Committee! Who???'"
not me ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Hutchie"not me
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| We need lots of bodies there ................
With idea's and a will to help push the club forward.
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| Quote ="Ian P"We need lots of bodies there ................
With idea's and a will to help push the club forward.'"
I'm in! ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Cheers to the HDM too
Did anyone notice if it was in league Weekly or RL express?
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Cheers to the HDM too
Did anyone notice if it was in league Weekly or RL express?'"
Well done Hutchie ![CLAP eusa_clap.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_clap.gif)
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| Out of interest i have just found some HISA stuff i had stored away, the next membership number due to be allocated was 1253
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Out of interest i have just found some HISA stuff i had stored away, the next membership number due to be allocated was 1253'"
Thats quite revealing
It had a high proportion of fans back in the early days of SL, a similar proportion today would see membership around 4K.
Now that would be something to aim for.
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| thats was was of beggining of 07 season i think
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| I'll join the new group, as long as there's no naked committee members calendar as part of the membership package. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'll join the new group, as long as there's no naked committee members calendar as part of the membership package.
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Hnag on that might be a good money raiser
have you got some melons and potted plants ?
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| Quote ="Ian P"Hnag on that might be a good money raiser
have you got some melons and potted plants ?'"
that's awfully forward of you Mr P. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"that's awfully forward of you Mr P.
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I meant they use melons for ....................... coverage
some people ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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