https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hlj ... BAS97vsq5c Interview on BBC after the match - I couldn’t get to the end

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hlj ... BAS97vsq5c Interview on BBC after the match - I couldn’t get to the end

Jack Gibson also said " Success/ Winning starts at the front office."

I did. He wasn't asked about Balmforth.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ts-9185210 Think this article says everything about the club , seemingly expecting hammerings , which we as fans do not . It the club had been honest and open you can get behind them but as it is they are not and fans rapidly losing their love of the current incarnation .

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ts-9185210 Think this article says everything about the club , seemingly expecting hammerings , which we as fans do not . It the club had been honest and open you can get behind them but as it is they are not and fans rapidly losing their love of the current incarnation .

Smith, Gene, Pearson, Clarke (what does actually do, given Pearson wields absolute power?) can all clear off for me. We might not have a club in a couple of years without them, won’t have one with them either.

Get rid of that matchday DJ too before they make him CFO.

Smiths got Pearson wrapped round his finger, how the hell is it acceptable to imply you expect to get repeated hammerings as part of this "process" if culture and performance are improving, we should be seeing less of these performances, not two in two weeks... It's almost an arrogance from Smith that because he's done it before, it'll magically happen here. Last year's horrendous Wakefield side didn't have back to back 50 point hammerings like we're getting

"We need to toughen up across the board," Smith said post-match. We need to make sure we’re doing our own jobs really well. We’ve all got to take responsibility for that and at the moment we know it’s not good enough."

Tony Smith HDM 23.03.24

The mould is set gentlemen and the people that run the club on our behalf are not going to change their minds no matter how much we whine and protest. Smith is trying to build a culture of collaboration and like it or not, it is our responsibility to support the current set up in any kind of weather. We know that we are the best supporters in rugby league (despite what the noveau riche of East Hull shout). I am not suggesting that we become a bunch of happy clappers but criticise where necessary in a positive manner. If you feel that the players, coaching staff, CEO or owner aren't deserving of our support that's fair enough. But surely we all love this club enough to get behind it for the sake of the loved ones who indoctrinated each of us, the badge, the heritage, the tradition and our responsibility to one another?

Some of the best times I've had as a supporter have been when the team are dire but the passion and unity amongst supporters has endured. It's what makes the successful times all the sweeter. I don't buy into this modern culture of everyone stamps their feet and gets what they want, when they want it. It is time to turn the morgue that is the MKM into a fortress, simply turning up and sitting there quietly is not an option. Let's fulfill our match day responsibilities and get behind the team vociferously. If we get hammered, nobody can then criticise the lack of support.!!

It's a bit disingenuous and lazy IMO to label those losing patience as spoilt whingers.

I've been a regular supporters for 30 odd years and a passholder for most. I've seen objectively worse times than this on the pitch eg out of the top flight. The difference now is that there is no hope of winning a match unless it's against part time London and in all likelihood a massive humiliation. In the same way supporting a successful, or at least competitive, team inspires pride and optimism, associating with a team that are out of their depth qualitywise, ill-disciplined, disorganised and likely to lose every game by at least 30 points does the opposite.

The real sticking point for me is that there is no tangible plan or green shoots. Nothing to get on board with in terms of realistic squad quality improvement other than some vague "you'll have to be patient" deflection.

So without significant new investment the choice seems to be either to keep going at the foot of the table, accepting a win ratio of 10% but surviving in SL due to the club's size, or dropping down a league or two and finding a new home. Not so much "it's the hope that kills you" but the complete lack of it.

You miss my point Mrs Barista which I probably didn't convey very eloquently. I got a bit Brave heart by the time I'd finished typing!) . I'm doing my fair share of being a spoilt whinger myself. My point is that it won't get us anywhere and we would be better off focusing our frustration on being the loyal, passionate, vocal group of supporters that we know we are...thereby responsibility as supporters achieved and over to you Messrs Pearson and Smith.

Interesting posts but I have to say that Loyalty is never in doubt!!!

However I do admire your sentiments what's more make no mistake Mrs B gets it as well, for there is little doubt that many on here will always support their club and be there whatever. Some of us with 60 odd years of pass holding behind us never stop loving the club and that's something that we will take to our grave with us. We have been on here for over 20 years often defending the club against the spoilt whingers during lives that have seen us in some real holes and minutes away from folding and yet it is a club that has provided the best day we ever had in our lives.

So make no mistake we'll always be there for our club. But the fact is even for the most hardened supporters the current situation is soul destroying. In the last week at least six guys have stoped me in Beverley and said "I'm keeping my pass I love the club Pete, but I can't face going anymore at present". I try to gee them up but in my heart of hearts I feel the same. The thought of going on Friday is way too much for me but god bless those who are going.

We have seen bad times but even in the worst there were green shoots of optimism. Something to cling to and signs of better times ahead. But I think now when I look inwardly at how I feel I can't remember feeling so helpless about the lack of passion the lack of any sort of leaders on the field, the lack of direction in attack and organisation in defence. I don't think a lot of the players think like I do anymore. That plus the fact that no one away from the playing side wants to speak to us, the folks who have invested so much in the club. But the absolute killer is that of a club that no matter who plays for it who manages it and who owns it continues on in the same inherent culture year on year and this time, with our last two rounds of recruitment and more important the players that have left there just sees to be no way out!!

I post on here infrequently but have visited daily for a number of years. I respect both your points of view (Mrs B and Wilf) and don't doubt your passion for our great club. I agree that this is just about the worst hole we've been in and feel as hopeless as you do but unlike the pass holders you mention, I think that now is exactly the time not to vote with your feet but is the time to get there and get behind the badge. Being recognised as and recognising ourselves as being great supporters may well be all we have left. For instance, by doing this at Caravan Park next week it will at least prevent us from enduring the "we can see you sneaking out diatribe from the scum! We can't outplay them so let's out sing them!

Just before Christmas my brother in law died in his early 80's. He lived in Hull for all his life and was an FC fan from an early age. He was a pass holder for over 60 years and went to away games until a few months ago. He just loved the club and made many friends in supporting the club

My sister arranged his funeral including the live internet transmission of the service which I viewed at midnight here. The casket at his request was wrapped in 'Old Faithful' regalia with his Hull scarf and the old match shirt which he wore for years.

I asked him once about his affection for the club and he answered that following Hull had given him so many wonderful memories for which he would forever be thankful and grateful and that he would continue to support them through thick and thin till he couldn't any more.

I know there are many Hull FC fans today just like him!

Let’s out sing them, Jesus Christ

I think the biggest problem with fans getting behind the club (which is a great sentiment by the way) is that the fanbase is so divided at the moment. I'm not just talking about the "happy clappers" and the "doom mongers" but fans just seem to be split about everything at the moment. You just have to look on here and on social media to see that there's a real lack of unity about what is going on and what can be done. You have some blaming Smith and the coaches with calls to bring Radders back, some blaming the players and saying to sack the lot of them, some blaming James Clark and saying he should be sacked too, others blaming Adam Pearson and saying he needs to sell up, also those blaming the fans saying we're not been supportive enough.

Now of course everyone has got an opinion and are entitled to it but I think the fact that there are so many different opinions and fans pulling in so many different directions at the moment really does make the idea of everyone uniting behind the common cause something of a pipe dream. I do also think that the club itself has caused this division not just in the results and performances on the pitch but also in the lack of engagement with the fans. It feels like there is a huge disconnect between both sides with only Smith speaking out with what is increasingly sounding like empty platitudes and one player each week bigging up the work done in training ahead of the next incoming defeat. We rarely hear from Clark and Pearson and that's usually only to sell us something.

What we really need is for some transparency. For Pearson to ideally tell us exactly what the situation is, what our aims are, how we are going about achieving those and how long they think it will take to do that. Just lay it out to the fanbase with honesty and frankness. Yes, there'll always be those that don't like what they hear but if the club actually attempts to engage with us, maybe it will pull the majority together again.

I know, this is how bad it has become. But at least we'd be sticking together as a support base and fulfilling our stakeholder responsibilities. Better than sitting there like corpses I would have thought?

Even if Smith left,we would be left with Grix and Cummins (Stan would have to go back to hanging around Caravan park).If someone is needed to kick them up the backsides,then why would people think about Brian McDermott? Not my cup of tea ideally,but someone prepared to come in and shake people around is definitely needed

I think the poster above has summed it up perfectly. The club and fans are so far apart at the minute, and the performances aren’t making us want to get behind them as it’s just heavy defeat after heavy defeat. I know pass holders who’ve paid for their tickets and aren’t even going.

I don't think McDermott would be ideal but he's the sort of character we need, someone who won't take any sh#t and is a fiery character, Wane would be the ideal choice but there's no chance of that happening.

It's always a tricky one for supporters when their club is in a situation such as the one we find ourselves in right now. How do fans register their unhappiness and concerns with what's happening without harming the club any further.

We could all refuse to attend until we see concrete changes being made, but the end result of that (over a prolonged period) would most likely see the club fold which I doubt any of us want?

On the other hand, if attendances remained high without a single dissenting voice (even though the team continued to get battered week on week) then the club hierarchy would probably take the view that all is well and they retain full support for their actions (which is what they most likely would tell themselves in that instance).

Like I say, it's a conundrum, how do you make a protest at a situation without making that situation even worse! This is the rock and hard place we find ourselves in right now.

I agree on the DJ hes changed the walk on music to Send in tthe clowns.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/s ... ow-9186092

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/s ... ow-9186092

Fair points. Looking at this and the point about the fans being divided, I don’t think Hull fans are clear what they should be protesting about. There’s nothing much to rally to or against.

Pearson saved the club from going bust, oversaw the winning of the cup twice and pretty much had to take that COVID loan. Despite your frustrations, I think you all know that even when he’s made mistakes he’s meant well. It’s hard to get a rage on against that. Clark is just admin and implementation.

Smith… I’d agree he’s under delivering but he is constrained by resources. A shouty coach might make you feel better briefly but it doesn’t really address the underlying issue.

The squad isn’t very good, but banners and slogans won’t make them better.

You kind of need a galvanising event or intervention, even if it isn’t something nice. As sickening as those last couple of minutes in the 2016 MPG were for Rovers fans, it at least showed clearly what the path needed to be - as rocky as it was going to be, and that was better than the drift that preceded it.

This is very nail on the head stuff. Don't think you'll find many fans, if any, that disagree.