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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"It means your a sad drip stuck at home with nothing better to do in his sad Worcester life
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What an absolutely fabulous comeback. Clearly a shining whit at work.
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| Quote ="Kosh"What an absolutely fabulous comeback. Clearly a shining whit at work.'"
Bloody spoonerisms!!
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Bloody spoonerisms!!'"
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| Quote ="Kosh"What EHFCF said.
Also, we had attacking structures last season and in the first few games of this season up until Holdsworth's injury. Since then we have been adjusting structures in an attempt to fit them to available personnel. Gentle has referred to this in almost every interview. I guess people aren't listening.
Fans have been down to training and seen us practising attacking plays and structures. This part of the coaching is not an issue. What [iis[/i an issue is that without Holdsworth on the pitch we apparently have a group of players utterly unable to put the coaches instructions into practice. I don't know why that is or whose fault it is, and frankly I don't care. It needs to be fixed and Gentle has to come up with a way to do that, regardless of whether it's his fault or not.
Oh - and your last comment is just stupid. Sorry to be blunt but TBH I'm fed up with people only being able to see two polar opposite positions on this. It's perfectly possible to be unhappy with the way things are and still be rational about the reasons behind it.'"
We're a disorganised rabble. Either the coach is not communicating his plans and systems as he should despite the excellent weeks training or his players are incapable of implementing the instructions and/or are not of the required standard. Either way , as you say , this is down to PG and his coaching staff and to McRae if he is responsible for recruitment/putting together a competitive team. We are worse at the moment but the players looked like they'd never met before in many games last year as well. Quite honestly if Jonathan Thurston played for us tomorrow we'd still struggle. There's a lot wrong and there look to be no quick fixes or ideas within the current group.
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| Quote ="heard1989"I agree in a way with regards to houghton..
But what more could gentle do to be honest. Yes possibly start horny in the halves with whiting full back, but didn't horny actually play in the halves when we were attacking with whiting playing a more LF role. In defense horny at full back and whiting out wide to provide extra cover.'"
he could of played with 2 hookers n no scrum half one on the left n one on the right(DH coz he likes going right)horn at 6 westy at 13 n whiting at fullback (extra ball player on attack) better support plus a few dummy runners might help.lets face it everyone else does
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Did you not see the interview with Gentle? The one where he specifically said that we simplified things so not to put too much pressure on our 2nd row halves? That to me says we didn't put our normal structures in place due to injuries.'"
so horny played most his career at 7 plus whiting signed as a 6 and azza good enough last season are not halfbacks.not the best granted but good enough to beat london and rovers with the right coaching and game plan . didnt we beat hudds in playoffs with horn n azza?
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Houghton needs to be spelled for his own protection and development. His desire plus the fact he is a target means that he will always have to do a lot of defence. The rest of his game isnt developing as it should be as a consequence. I know that i will get shot down on here but Josh Hodgson is now a superior all round player.'"
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| Looking back on things ,Cas must be wondering how they got nilled.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Looking back on things ,Cas must be wondering how they got nilled.'"
More about how the fook we put 50 points on them?
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| friday was def a low point for me.as much as i'v had faith in gentle i am now thinking he is'nt the real deal.even if your 6/7 are missing if you play a game plan which contains dummy runners and options at least the stand in players have a chance.our lack of dummy runners is beyond a joke.watchin wig v sts i honestly saw more dummy runners in the first 20mins than i'v seen all season.no getting away from that been down to coaching and not injuries
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| I will judge him when we get two good halfbacks on the field at the same time, we had two 2nd rowers playing in that position against KR, how the hell was we expected to win.
For the past 5 years we have begged for a top number 7 and until we get a creative player we wont be Top 4 or lookinig at this season Top 8.
I still think we have the right man, look how he as improved our youth in the future years that will benefit us.
We just need to give the man a Top number 7, not like we didnt try last year to get one but now we need to try harder.
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| Quote ="Punos"I will judge him when we get two good halfbacks on the field at the same time, we had two 2nd rowers playing in that position against KR, how the hell was we expected to win.'"
You have to question why the only recognised half on the pitch played at FB though, surely?
Quote ="Punos"For the past 5 years we have begged for a top number 7 and until we get a creative player we wont be Top 4 or lookinig at this season Top 8.'"
Indeed, and I can't see that changing in 2014 I am afraid, lack of supply and some deep rooted issues within FC seem to be preventing much progress.
Quote ="Punos"I still think we have the right man, look how he as improved our youth in the future years that will benefit us.'"
He certainly has spent a lot of Pearson's money on building the youth development, hard to say wether a different coach would have done similar. I have had suspicions for a while that PG is actually here to build the team an club for the future, and McRae is actually dealing with first team matters, but I have no proof, just a funny feeling.
Quote ="Punos"We just need to give the man a Top number 7, not like we didnt try last year to get one but now we need to try harder.'"
A top 7 wont cover the lack of agression in the forwards, the apparent inability to execute what we practice on the training pitch, our inability to take the high ball, the slow play the ball, the general inability to pass etc etc.
Our lack of a 7 is an issue, but it's not our only issue.
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| i understand the fact we need a 7 but i think that is papering over other issues.even at amature level if our scrum half was injured we never stopped doing everything else.if anything you would try to do a bit more to help the stand in out like at least make sure you new who was putting the kick in on last tackle.when green or smith are out does everyone stop giving sean o'lock options or do they stick to the structure they have played to for seasons.we may work hard in defence but without doubt the laziest attacking team in league
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| Quote ="classov78"so horny played most his career at 7 plus whiting signed as a 6 and azza good enough last season are not halfbacks.not the best granted but good enough to beat london and rovers with the right coaching and game plan . didnt we beat hudds in playoffs with horn n azza?'"
Huddersfield were in free fall when we played them in the playoffs, we'd have beaten them with what we had out on Friday. Whiting hasn't been a 6 for a considerable amount of time, and has spent the last two years trying to bulk up for the 2nd row. As for Horne, he may have worn the 7 shirt before but he's never been a SH.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Huddersfield were in free fall when we played them in the playoffs, we'd have beaten them with what we had out on Friday. Whiting hasn't been a 6 for a considerable amount of time, and has spent the last two years trying to bulk up for the 2nd row. As for Horne, he may have worn the 7 shirt before but he's never been a SH.'"
i think hornes been a good 7 at times for hull over the years but that is alongside the likes of cooke,j smith,swain.all people who had the ability,desire and mainly bottle to drag a team through adversity to get the result.horne has probaly been our best player for a large part this season but he needs help from all the team.those other players demanded the best from everyone else and more often than not got it.horne is'nt that figure head.
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| Quote ="Standee"You have to question why the only recognised half on the pitch played at FB though, surely?
Indeed, and I can't see that changing in 2014 I am afraid, lack of supply and some deep rooted issues within FC seem to be preventing much progress.
He certainly has spent a lot of Pearson's money on building the youth development, hard to say wether a different coach would have done similar. I have had suspicions for a while that PG is actually here to build the team an club for the future, and McRae is actually dealing with first team matters, but I have no proof, just a funny feeling.
A top 7 wont cover the lack of agression in the forwards, the apparent inability to execute what we practice on the training pitch, our inability to take the high ball, the slow play the ball, the general inability to pass etc etc.
Our lack of a 7 is an issue, but it's not our only issue.'"
Interesting viewpoint, but if it is true that Gentle has been told to sort the club out from the ground up, and go for the short-term pain, long-term gain option....then why haven't the club been honest about this? We've been told that we want top4 rugby, that most of the signings are 'internationals' that we wanted 10K passholders to see it all etc
I know saying that 'we're going to be rubbish for a few years more because we are training up the kids' doesn't sell tickets, but we wouldn't be seeing 'Gentle Out' threads like this if the club hadn't hyped everything up.
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| Quote ="Standee"You have to question why the only recognised half on the pitch played at FB though, surely?
Indeed, and I can't see that changing in 2014 I am afraid, lack of supply and some deep rooted issues within FC seem to be preventing much progress.
He certainly has spent a lot of Pearson's money on building the youth development, hard to say wether a different coach would have done similar. I have had suspicions for a while that PG is actually here to build the team an club for the future, and McRae is actually dealing with first team matters, but I have no proof, just a funny feeling.
A top 7 wont cover the lack of agression in the forwards, the apparent inability to execute what we practice on the training pitch, our inability to take the high ball, the slow play the ball, the general inability to pass etc etc.
Our lack of a 7 is an issue, but it's not our only issue.'"
Dont disagree with any of that but we need a number 7 that is the root of a lot of our problems, we are not letting teams score a lot of points and several times this year we would have won the games if we had a bit of skill at 7.
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| Quote ="Standee"
He certainly has spent a lot of Pearson's money on building the youth development, hard to say wether a different coach would have done similar. I have had suspicions for a while that PG is actually here to build the team an club for the future, and McRae is actually dealing with first team matters, but I have no proof, just a funny feeling.
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Made me smile that one mate, seen some conspiracy theories but thats a good one
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| Quote ="Standee"He certainly has spent a lot of Pearson's money on building the youth development, hard to say wether a different coach would have done similar. I have had suspicions for a while that PG is actually here to build the team an club for the future, and McRae is actually dealing with first team matters, but I have no proof, just a funny feeling.'"
With a consistent trend of McRae sides being all about trying to throw the ball about and attacking but being lazy in defence, and us currently being the exact opposite, that makes perfect sense, honest.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Bloody spoonerisms!!'"
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| Quote ="B0NES"I'd rather sack players first than gentle.'"
spot on .if gentle got sacked players will say it was their fault.and it will be no passion and lack of effort
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Seriously what is this guying doing on a week to week basis as i see nothing. The guy is clueless in what to do to even get us doing the basics and is showing this week on week as he has no idea how to turn it round. That team on paper should of nuked Rovers but looked devoid of anything apart from Horne/Whiting
How anyone can defend him is beyond me but no doubt the usual Agar/Sharp/Hetherington/Rule lovers will be along shortly'"
It is rare that you have the opportunity to read such childish drivel by someone who obviously has little grasp of the game and the transfer market. I DO blame Rule/Agar for leaving the club so lacking in resources, a position which the current regime have to deal with.
I would like to know what this person thinks the dismissal of Peter Gentle would actually achieve ?
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| [quo:148cpy7lte="TrevLovesJanice"It is rare that you have the opportunity to read such childish drivel by someone who obviously has little grasp of the game and the transfer market
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| ...and now he is a tactical genius !
Jamie Shaul making his debut and new halfback pairing.
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| I seriously doubt another coach could do any better with the players we currently have available. Unless we can find a new coach who can bring a couple of half backs with him, I think we should stick with Gentle, at least until the end of the season.
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