the minefield that is the RFL rules huh???
only in RL would you find sucess rewarded by rules that forbid you to be even more sucessful
its a business at the end of the day

He's been a great servant to the club (paid handsomely mind) but he's only really now living up to the clubs expectations for great half backs; available for a maximum of one game out of every two and be doubtful for the game he is available. He's had some bad injuries and his diabetes won't have helped matters. We all know what he is capable of when playing alongside a creative HB partner but at 27/28 (??) he should still be in his prime.

We haven't had value for money out of either of our first choice halves this season and I am not expecting to get that next season either.

I know we're entering a critical phase in the run up to the playoffs but I think I'd give Nicklas a go from the start of the game in the position he prefers.

Just seen Horney wandering round Glasshoughton with his Mrs and he didn't look to be carrying an injury.

Being able to walk, and being able to compete in a full game of RL are two completely different things tbh.

FWIW, and i've said it before, I appreciate that RH is a great club man but he is well past his best. We need to offload him or significantly reduce his salary IMO. He's a squad/utility player on an international wage aswell has having at lease £500k in his testimonial efforts.

When fit he has shown enough this season to warrant his place, unfortunately a player cannot predict his injuries!!

do you intentionally ignore the posts regarding hornes wage on the cap?

once again, 50% of his salary isn't counted on the cap

completely agree, still could have a future as a squad player...but not first choice number 6 for the salary he is on

But the club still pay 100% of his wage

Agree.
He has been an outstanding figure for hullFC and he deserves the recognition but due to injuries and the diabetes its obviously took its toll. We can't afford to be paying his kind of wage for a bit part player. It's a shame but face the facts.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 878781.stm His injury could be worse than first feared.

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 878781.stm His injury could be worse than first feared.

True but you can predict that when he does get injured, he will take alot longer than other players of his age to regain his fitness due to his diabetes.

Horne is great on the field but the problem at the moment is getting him there and keeping him there.

He wouldn't be stuck for a lift

Yes but its not about how much the club are paying him, it about how much of the salary cap he takes up which is improtant. You wont find another 6 of his quality taking up so little of the salary cap space, even if he only plays half the season. As I said in an earlier post, Horne will lose a massive amount of value when Yeaman becomes eligible for the testimonial salary cap discount. I know it seems unfair but sometimes things have to be looked at from a business point of view and unless Horne can stay fit for the majority of next season, we need to look to get rid, which is a shame cos Horne has been a great player for us and should be a player in his prime.

I don't think Horne would be that much of a problem if Longy wasn't out injured just as much, personally I think we need to sign a half back who can play 9 also, so when all parties are fit, we can play Berro at 13, and still use the two hooker bench system.

spot on...

Unfortunately Richard is a luxury we cannot afford, it's as simple as that.

I still think Richard can be a productive member of our squad and even if this current injury means he out of the team for the rest of the season he can have a more off the field roll ala Sculthorpe at Saints.

He still has years in him and came back from a lengthy absence with a good performance. I don't like the idea of a club that cancels contracts all the time just because of bad luck.

All the best Rich, you're a local hero.

I think it's about time we used Richard Horne in the same way Wigan are using Paul Deakin - a really good back-up.

We need to sign a half-back that will last the season. They cost a lot of money. Only 50% Horne's contract counts on the cap due to being here over 10 years, so there's no point getting rid. If he's played less, it might mean we get more out of him as well.

It's £50k off the full salary cap. From next year Yeaman comes under this rule, but the £50k is per club regardless of number of players who come under the long service rule.

For the same or less money we could probably get Rangi Chase (plus a smallish transfer fee of course) from Cas. I know who offers more value for money. Much as I love Rich he should probably be used as the cover in the halfs rather than relying on him.

Agree.
I think Chase is a cracking player, but even if FC did want him I doubt cas would want to lose him.

plus the problem that chase is a quota player?

Slight tear in his groin will miss next two games back for Leeds!

Well it could work out Horney & Longy back for Leeds...that would be great news.

Ive heard that one before, and then they miss 6 months

Also mentioned longy being back for warrington