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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"mose masoe a massive 55 m from his 11 carries. Total pudding
paea 136m from 15 carries'"
Stats are always misleading the thing is Mose was running at your forwards whereas Paea was running at ours there's a big difference Jake
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| I don't mind Masoe. With the right conditioning that allowed him to do more than 11 minutes and used wider he could do a job off our bench IMO.
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| Quote ="Dave K."People gave advice a while back to ignore knockers (Which I more or less do) as all he goes is say the same thing over and over again and once he is beat (which is often) he ignores the post.
For whatever reason he hates Radford and will never give him credit, he doesn't understand Radford had to take us backwards to go forwards after the mess Gentle got us in.
I'd suggest if we all ignore him, he might go away. I certainly won't miss his repeated anti Radford rants.'"
He won't go away as he believes the shoite he posts. Personally, I reckon radders used to nick his dinner money at school
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Stats are always misleading the thing is Mose was running at your forwards whereas Paea was running at ours there's a big difference Jake'"
masoe is rubbish. Sheens would be better putting him on a diet of burgers, fries and milkshakes for a few months and playing in short spells off the bench. Currently he has neither the size to make any real impact or the fitness to do do lengthy stints and make a lot of carries and tackles. I'd honestly rather have brad fash in our team than masoe
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I don't mind Masoe. With the right conditioning that allowed him to do more than 11 minutes and used wider he could do a job off our bench IMO.'"
Is that another one of your ironic, taking the pish posts?
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| Quote ="Dave K."People gave advice a while back to ignore knockers (Which I more or less do) as all he goes is say the same thing over and over again and once he is beat (which is often) he ignores the post.
For whatever reason he hates Radford and will never give him credit, he doesn't understand Radford had to take us backwards to go forwards after the mess Gentle got us in.
I'd suggest if we all ignore him, he might go away. I certainly won't miss his repeated anti Radford rants.'"
because Radford/the team make the exact same errors time and again, you yourself touched on that in your assessment of the game.
Like the 'advice', I've tried to ignore childish and abusive posts by not responding.
I've given LR plenty of credit, so you're a liar, I don't hate Radford I think he's gone as far as he can with his limited abilities, won't accept his limitations nor inability to address the same issues that crop up without help from elsewhere. PG was a better coach IMHO.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"because Radford/the team make the exact same errors time and again, you yourself touched on that in your assessment of the game.
Like the 'advice', I've tried to ignore childish and abusive posts by not responding.
I've given LR plenty of credit, so you're a liar, I don't hate Radford I think he's gone as far as he can with his limited abilities, won't accept his limitations nor inability to address the same issues that crop up without help from elsewhere. Quote PG was a better coach IMHO.'" '"
You know nothing about RL then - IMHO.
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| Radders has a philosophy in his coaching, big bad & dominant, we play this way, his teams are molded this way, his recruiting is based on this, it’s a simple method, and after two successful Challenge Cup campaigns “yes yes two of them” we were undone in two Play off semis, both of them Wigan & Leeds nail biters, and with a little luck both winnable. We are in a mess at present with injuries, and of course the team makes errors and mistakes, all teams do, sorry bumpy, credit were it’s due, our young coach has done a super job for us all, you are entitled to your opinions, I respect this, and if people are so incensed by them, there is an option to ignore, come on you ull.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"PG was a better coach IMHO.'"
Peter was a nice guy, we all wanted him to succeed, he tried his best but wasn’t good enough at the end of the day. He built a ‘small’ squad and we ended up getting bullied plus he left us in a right state salary cap wise.
Singed bang average players on massive wages: Miller crookes, Pitts, arundel, holdsworth. His first off season signings were terrible.
We got the odd win against the likes of Leeds and Wigan but we we’re nothing special. We never looked like seriously challenging for either trophy.
Yeah he got us to Wembley, but we we’re never going to win in a million years.
It took Radford a good 2 years to sort out the deadwood and hammer home his ethos. 2014 and 15 were tough, I wanted him to go. It hadn’t been that long since the dross served up in the Agar era, and no one wanted to go through that again.
Then look at his recruitment for 2016 with a bit of spare cap space after he got rid of the average Gentle players. Pritchard, Manu, Taylor, Fonua, Tuimavave. Slowly but surely he turned us around.
Since then we’ve had 2 top 3 finishes and 2 challenge cups
We’re modelled on the successful Bradford team that Radford played in. Is it glamorous? Not really. Does it get results? Seems so.
He’s now developing and bringing the local players through nicely. Some of them may have made their debut under Gentle but the development of the likes of Masi, Green, Bowden, Shaul have improved no end.
The club has gone from strength to strength each year Radford has been in charge. He’s a winner. Gentle is a nice guy.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Radders has a philosophy in his coaching, big bad & dominant, we play this way, his teams are molded this way, his recruiting is based on this, it’s a simple method, and after two successful Challenge Cup campaigns “yes yes two of them” we were undone in two Play off semis, both of them Wigan & Leeds nail biters, and with a little luck both winnable. We are in a mess at present with injuries, and of course the team makes errors and mistakes, all teams do, sorry bumpy, credit were it’s due, our young coach has done a super job for us all, you are entitled to your opinions, I respect this, and if people are so incensed by them, there is an option to ignore, come on you ull.'"
Problem is
You can Buy size
You can buy power
But you cant beat pace which is what Wigan,Saints,Leeds and Cas have in abdundance
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Radders has a philosophy in his coaching, big bad & dominant, we play this way, his teams are molded this way, his recruiting is based on this, it’s a simple method, and after two successful Challenge Cup campaigns “yes yes two of them” we were undone in two Play off semis, both of them Wigan & Leeds nail biters, and with a little luck both winnable. We are in a mess at present with injuries, and of course the team makes errors and mistakes, all teams do, sorry bumpy, credit were it’s due, our young coach has done a super job for us all, you are entitled to your opinions, I respect this, and if people are so incensed by them, there is an option to ignore, come on you ull.'"
Great post, he won't reply to the points though.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Problem is
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But you cant beat pace which is what Wigan,Saints,Leeds and Cas have in abdundance'"
Full strength we have a fair bit of pace
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| Quote ="bonaire"Problem is
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Don’t get me wrong, I would like Budgie from the pies, or Tom Johnstone from Wakey, but it’s a fine balance, Rome wasn’t built in a day.
As for the Loiners surely a great team in decline
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"mose masoe a massive 55 m from his 11 carries. Total pudding
paea 136m from 15 carries'"
To be fair, wasn't it Dane Tilse who managed a whole 47 meters in the "20 nil up" game...
55 meters is a positive for rovers
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| 6 Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"because Radford/the team make the exact same errors time and again, you yourself touched on that in your assessment of the game.
Like the 'advice', I've tried to ignore childish and abusive posts by not responding.
I've given LR plenty of credit, so you're a liar, I don't hate Radford I think he's gone as far as he can with his limited abilities, won't accept his limitations nor inability to address the same issues that crop up without help from elsewhere. PG was a better coach IMHO.'"
Didn't you say Radford had taken us as far as he could before he coached us to 2 Wembley wins?
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| Quote ="bonaire"Problem is
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I'm pretty sure we beat 3 of those 4 on the way to winning the cup last year
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| Quote ="bonaire"Problem is
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Wigan's backline is pretty rapid, but man for man I doubt our 1-7 lacks pace compared to the other 3. Cas certainly don't have many speedsters.
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Quote ="Jake the Peg"a026.gif 6Didn't you say Radford had taken us as far as he could before he coached us to 2 Wembley wins?'"
Just a reminder.
https://www.change.org/p/adam-pearson-h ... terminated
We were a club previously [ichallenging[/i for silverware and [iwithin reach[/i of a top four spot when he tried to get the coach sacked.
=#FF0000Less of the name calling please, Karen.
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Quote ="Jake the Peg"a026.gif 6Didn't you say Radford had taken us as far as he could before he coached us to 2 Wembley wins?'"
Just a reminder.
https://www.change.org/p/adam-pearson-h ... terminated
We were a club previously [ichallenging[/i for silverware and [iwithin reach[/i of a top four spot when he tried to get the coach sacked.
=#FF0000Less of the name calling please, Karen.
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At least he's consistent.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"At least he's consistent.'"
Oh aye, he's definitely an empty-head.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Problem is
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Can you not buy pace then !
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Radders has a philosophy in his coaching, big bad & dominant, we play this way, his teams are molded this way, his recruiting is based on this, it’s a simple method, and after two successful Challenge Cup campaigns “yes yes two of them” we were undone in two Play off semis, both of them Wigan & Leeds nail biters, and with a little luck both winnable. We are in a mess at present with injuries, and of course the team makes errors and mistakes, all teams do, sorry bumpy, credit were it’s due, our young coach has done a super job for us all, you are entitled to your opinions, I respect this, and if people are so incensed by them, there is an option to ignore, come on you ull.'"
I have no problem around using x method/way of thinking to bring about the end goal, always more than one way to skin a cat. In so far as the 'power' game we predominantly play we've done well and Radford has built up a side to fit that 'philosophy.
However this comes undone when teams get injuries, particularly in the forwards in which you rely on so much and to set the tone, it also narrows your threat because you're so reliant on that mode of play. This has been highlighted by many and the fact, yes fact our red zone attack is too often just clueless rubbish.
Additionally you ignore my particular criticisms, repeating same mistakes/errors/discipline, again most on here say all that every match thread, that's the coaches inability to coach that out for whatever reason.
My other criticism was regarding the youth, I've pointed out and explained fully what I believe are his failings on that as I have everything else. I give plenty of praise but you like others don't want to acknowledge I've said good stuff about Radford.
Time and again people on here say Radford needs an attack coach, time and again posters say he need to address mistakes/errors/discipline, but he doesn't, he won't acknowledge his weaknesses and that's holding us back.
As for the losing two semis, if Radford hadn't punched Bailey we could have been in the GF, if Shaul outpaces Charnley in'13 we'd likely have won the CC wíth a team half full of rookies, we got massively gortunate with injurues in '16, if we hadn't we would't likely have won the CC. It's all ifs and buts,
ATEOTD I want more, everyone said we need to 'kick on' from 2016, we haven't, many say we've gone backwards, Radford in my honest opinion will not take us forward as things stand. Either a change here and there and better understanding of the issues holding us back that he can control or he gets help to do that, currently it's neither.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I have no problem around using x method/way of thinking to bring about the end goal, always more than one way to skin a cat. In so far as the 'power' game we predominantly play we've done well and Radford has built up a side to fit that 'philosophy.
However this comes undone when teams get injuries, particularly in the forwards in which you rely on so much and to set the tone, it also narrows your threat because you're so reliant on that mode of play. This has been highlighted by many and the fact, yes fact our red zone attack is too often just clueless rubbish.
Additionally you ignore my particular criticisms, repeating same mistakes/errors/discipline, again most on here say all that every match thread, that's the coaches inability to coach that out for whatever reason.
My other criticism was regarding the youth, I've pointed out and explained fully what I believe are his failings on that as I have everything else. I give plenty of praise but you like others don't want to acknowledge I've said good stuff about Radford.
Time and again people on here say Radford needs an attack coach, time and again posters say he need to address mistakes/errors/discipline, but he doesn't, he won't acknowledge his weaknesses and that's holding us back.
As for the losing two semis, if Radford hadn't punched Bailey we could have been in the GF, if Shaul outpaces Charnley in'13 we'd likely have won the CC wíth a team half full of rookies, we got massively gortunate with injurues in '16, if we hadn't we would't likely have won the CC. It's all ifs and buts,
ATEOTD I want more, everyone said we need to 'kick on' from 2016, we haven't, many say we've gone backwards, Radford in my honest opinion will not take us forward as things stand. Either a change here and there and better understanding of the issues holding us back that he can control or he gets help to do that, currently it's neither.'"
There are more holes in your arguments than there are in this picture of a block of cheese.
These are arguments you regurgitate time and time again to suit your anti-Radford & anti-board agendas, and when pulled up on them or presented with facts, you don't respond, you simply bide you time to spout them again on another thread. It's about time the mods did the right thing & sent you packing, troll.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I have no problem around using x method/way of thinking to bring about the end goal, always more than one way to skin a cat. In so far as the 'power' game we predominantly play we've done well and Radford has built up a side to fit that 'philosophy.
However this comes undone when teams get injuries, particularly in the forwards in which you rely on so much and to set the tone, it also narrows your threat because you're so reliant on that mode of play. This has been highlighted by many and the fact, yes fact our red zone attack is too often just clueless rubbish.
Additionally you ignore my particular criticisms, repeating same mistakes/errors/discipline, again most on here say all that every match thread, that's the coaches inability to coach that out for whatever reason.
My other criticism was regarding the youth, I've pointed out and explained fully what I believe are his failings on that as I have everything else. I give plenty of praise but you like others don't want to acknowledge I've said good stuff about Radford.
Time and again people on here say Radford needs an attack coach, time and again posters say he need to address mistakes/errors/discipline, but he doesn't, he won't acknowledge his weaknesses and that's holding us back.
As for the losing two semis, if Radford hadn't punched Bailey we could have been in the GF, if Shaul outpaces Charnley in'13 we'd likely have won the CC wíth a team half full of rookies, we got massively gortunate with injurues in '16, if we hadn't we would't likely have won the CC. It's all ifs and buts,
ATEOTD I want more, everyone said we need to 'kick on' from 2016, we haven't, many say we've gone backwards, Radford in my honest opinion will not take us forward as things stand. Either a change here and there and better understanding of the issues holding us back that he can control or he gets help to do that, currently it's neither.'"
As I have never engaged with you regarding our coach and his qualities, how could I offer any opinion of your praise, and good stuff, You are possibly mixing me up with another poster.
Let’s for arguments sake, give you the praise you desire, is this a Freudian method you use, cutting off your arm, but still wanting your thumbs.
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