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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"Pot calling kettle'"
Not really, I'm providing an alternative perspective with some relevant, and fundamental points which you seem unwilling or unable to address. Try these:
Who owns the stadium?
How is their relationship with the Allams?
How long would you expect it to be until a stadium were open for business in Melton given timelines for planning consent, a likely caling-in, preparatory/remedial works, highways variations and build?
Can the terms of the SMC sub lease be materially varied without agreement of all parties?
If Melton went ahead, would the council sensibly look to work with a new SMC to optimise its usage in a more collaborative way and yield cost savings?
In your own time.
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| So, just to make sure, the council aren't going to sell it and build us a new stadium?!...
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"What landlord in the right mind would lay a pitch at the costs of over £1 million without trying to recoup the costs through rental?'"
Are you really that stupid to understand that it's their responsibility due to the rental agreement between the parties?
They can't just change the rent as they suit!
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"What landlord in the right mind would lay a pitch at the costs of over £1 million without trying to recoup the costs through rental?'"
He knew the responsibilities of the SMC when he bought the company. Incidentally, this isn't the first time the pitch has been re-laid, you know. It's been done several times with the SMC footing the bill via revenue gained each time. That the Allams seem intent on cauterising the SMC's revenue sources is 'curious' but ultimately irrelvant to Hull FC. Not our problem.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not really, I'm providing an alternative perspective with some relevant, and fundamental points which you seem unwilling or unable to address. Try these:
Who owns the stadium?
How is their relationship with the Allams?
How long would you expect it to be until a stadium were open for business in Melton given timelines for planning consent, a likely caling-in, preparatory/remedial works, highways variations and build?
Can the terms of the SMC sub lease be materially varied without agreement of all parties?
If Melton went ahead, would the council sensibly look to work with a new SMC to optimise its usage in a more collaborative way and yield cost savings?
In your own time.'"
Not sure why you even bother with him?
He'll not be able to provide you with a rational counter argument.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Are you really that stupid to understand that it's their responsibility due to the rental agreement between the parties?
They can't just change the rent as they suit!'"
He is, so expect him to ignore trivialities like facts and counter with the 'head patting' emoticon.
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| Quote ="Jimmy Carr"Not sure why you even bother with him?
He'll not be able to provide you with a rational counter argument.'"
No neither do I,but its fun seing him shot out of the water time after time.
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"What landlord in the right mind would lay a pitch at the costs of over £1 million without trying to recoup the costs through rental?'"
Are you really of the opinion that any rent paid would not incorporate an allowance for repairs and renewals???
Pitch relaying would be done on a cyclical basis which should be planned well in advance. The kind of thing which the land lord should have figured into account which working out the rent in the first place.
You claim to live in HK? Would you expect your rent to change if your AC machine broke down or would you expect the landlord to fix it without passing on the cost to you?
Oh, and do remember, I lived there for a number of years ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| ![DRUNK icon_biggrin.gifRUNK:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_drunk.gif) HULL FC are safe at KC for many many years after that tirade and insult by the good Dr
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| He's Egypt's answer to David Lloyd and the City fans who chant his name will turn on him before long, there is no doubt about that.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2320440/Hull-City-owner-Assem-Allam-snub-civic-reception-hold-celebrations.html
Allam labels councillors "liars and cheats".'"
I still await the HDM and RH's independent and detailed analysis of the proposed property deal and pros and cons.
Originally it was a Sporting Village Gift.
It then reported that the freehold was requested for next to nothing to [uborrow agains[/ut to fund the development
It then emerged that rather than Sport as the focus, it's a commercial development centred on supermarkets and shops
So, basically another retail park with Greggs and Carphone Warehouse, sucking more life out of a city centre when shops in Whitefriargate are pulling out.
On land with covenants, preservation orders and royal charters going back centuries
With no reference to the possibility, in a declining retail market, of the council's flagship asset ending up in the hands of administrators if trends moving the retail market online continue in their current trajectory.
I'll not hold my breath. The emotional connection through the success of the football team and inflammatory "done to" language used means these aspects simply won't be examined in a meaningful way. It's taken 48 hours for this to be used as a divisive mechanism by the Allams. Wow.
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| As predicted the games have already began.
It's going to get messy.
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| And hes now planning a premiership party for 30000 all over the pitch
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"And hes now planning a premiership party for 30000 all over the pitch'"
which is ironic, as they can't get 25,000 to a game regularly.
also, it's Ferriby and Reckitts cup final, how crass to crash it as a promotion party?
he has no shame, but we knew that.
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| " Hull, business wise, is backwards. Look at other cities. Look at Leeds, Newcastle and look at Hull. After the M62, the M18, the Humber Bridge, Humberside airport, look what happened. Nothing. We lost business."
If he thinks so little of Hull as a business city then why is he still here?
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| cant work out if f90 is an idiot,fool,stupid,troll,daft,mad, or just the whole blomin lot ![CRAZY d040.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//d040.gif)
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| Quote ="The_Mighty_F90"The sad thing is he is right. The likes of Leeds and Newcastle are streets ahead of us.
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Thing is, anybody could quite easily post photos showing Leeds & Newcastle as a dump and then a picture of Ferensway at night all lit up and looking pretty.
Suppose it depends what side of the argument you're on.
We could then talk about comparative government investment between the three cities, but you probably wouldn't want to do that either.
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| Thing is, he's chosen a picture of Clarence Dock in Leeds. Whilst it looks lovely, the place has been a bit of a white elephant and commercial failure. Recently, the casino there and two pretty decent restaurants closed, and the whole area is a ghost town.
Isn't the picture of Newcastle actually Gateshead?
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| yes thats gateshead with the sage building.
i suppose at a push you could say that the bridge is partly in newcastle.
cracking research that
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| Quote ="Errlee Berd"Thing is, he's chosen a picture of Clarence Dock in Leeds. [uWhilst it looks lovely[/u, the place has been a bit of a white elephant and commercial failure. Recently, the casino there and two pretty decent restaurants closed, and the whole area is a ghost town.
Isn't the picture of Newcastle actually Gateshead?'"
That's stretching it, and I'm from Leeds
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| I guess you lads will know more about Gateshead than me.
Spiritual home. ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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