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| there has been a cricket match there before hasnt there? The stadium could be used for numerous events yet they are not interested. It still riles me that they are comparing Holdsworth taking 30 minutes to practice his kicking last week to the full City 1st team training on the pitch during the snow period!
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| Quote ="Standee"Had a reply from a few places, have replied myself with my take on what might be going on:
Thanks for taking the time to reply, my view is that Allam is trying to make the SMC look unviable without City, give the impression to the people of Hull that the Council really would be better off cuttting their losses by selling him the KC. In the previous years up until Allam buying City and the SMC the SMC posted a modest profit and made a marginal positive return to the Council, but the Council also paid a modest rental for the office space it used, so in effect it was a revenue stream, a small one, but it existed.
The Allams came in and priced just about everyone out, the Council closed the offices as there was general uproar when the HDM ran a story that the SMC was not paying much into the Council coffers (oddly, at roughly the same time as "Dr" Allam started to make noises about buying the KC), in the last set of accounts for the SMC they posted a loss of just over £400K, no dividend so no money for the Council, but the SMC had £1.2m "cash at hand" in the bank...very odd, to say the least.
Then we have the situation with YPI, Adam Pearson stated very publicly that he wanted to buy the Golf Centre and turn it into an indoor, all weather, training facility, "Dr" Allam then started bidding against AP, after 3 attempts AP gave up. "Dr" Allam has since been overheard, stating along the lines of "I don't really know what to do with it, maybe Squash, but they already have courts".
So, this great philanthropic hope that rode into the City on his trusty steed, vowing to "bring success and top level sport to the city", has so far:
Sacked Nick Barmby
Sacked Adam Pearson
Donated a £1m "soft loan" to Hull KR
Priced the hockey and basketball teams out of the Arena (which now has no sponsor)
Removed all but a small amount of FC's presence at the KC Stadium
Outbid AP for a property he neither needed nor wanted.
What was his vow "I can't just do something for one club, I am here for everyone"
That doesn't ring true, I remember "judge a man, not by his words, but by his deeds", I think it's fair to say any unbiased jusry would see through this for what it is, an ego driven agenda to get his hand on what he always wanted, the Kingston Communication Stadium and it's surroundings.'"
I dont agree with about 75% of what you say normally Standee - but you have definitely taken a lead on this and are representing what are all thinking in a very professional manner - the Allams's could do with someone like you to write their scripts
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| Replied to a tweet from peter levy on any stories, his producer has asked me to speak to peter levy, but im starting work in half an hour. Standee would you like the contact details?
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| Peter Levy tends to say it how it is!
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"I fail to see how charging to put pictures up is going to generate enough revenue to make the SMC viable. If he wants to make a "profit" then I suggest that he starts to look at other avenues of genuine revenue. WE play in the stadium a maximum I would say 17 times a year. 17 days only. City play twice that number but I would suggest that at least 300 days of the year the stadium is empty.
I know of other stadiums which are much the same and generate massive profits due to using their facilities to the full. Lords cricket ground is one which makes a massive profit. The bulk of the time it is open to a few hundred at Middlesex games. Yes they are the most prestigious ground in world cricket but attendance wise its similar to the KC. They also have to bid for test matches not get paid to hold them.
Its time Mr Allam or a independent person started to run the SMC and get the maximum amount out of the stadium. Concerts, international matches of any sport, you name it it can be done. But charging a small amount to put up pictures is not a commercially viable option. The bad PR he has generated alone will cost the SMC massively.
If we as Hull fans and if the RL world in general really feel as strongly as seems then a complete boycott of all SMC controlled produce will cost Allam (SMC) a fortune. Not wonderful business at all. The guy should employ a PR company before he sends a mouth piece to talk for him again.'"
It's an old trick that's been happening since commerce was invented.
Run a company down to near-unviability in order to engineer a buy-out at a bargain basement price. Then either strip the assets and take the profits and build the company back to where it should be and sell it on.
Allam's a vulture
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| Quote ="flezmundo"Replied to a tweet from peter levy on any stories, his producer has asked me to speak to peter levy, but im starting work in half an hour. Standee would you like the contact details?'"
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| Quote ="airlie"Wonder what the KR fans would be saying if it was the Clive Sullivan Suite???? Bet half of them who comment on HDM wont know who he is anyway.'"
More what would the City fans say if the shoe was on the other foot an AP was still in charge of the SMC and he did that to the Raich Carter Suite. Would they be laughing then? Would they my and quite rightly so. To charge for memoribilia is one thing, to take down pictures of the sporting men that a suite is named after is just pure arrogant and ignorant.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"I dont agree with about 75% of what you say normally Standee - but you have definitely taken a lead on this and are representing what are all thinking in a very professional manner - the Allams's could do with someone like you to write their scripts
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Thanks, as I put on my Facebook yesterday, they poked the dog at the wrong time, I am off work for a few more weeks so I have time on my hands, a good crusade is welcome distraction from being bored! I write stuff like this as a huge part of my professional life too, combine the two together and that, regardless of what some might think, I love my club and I believe the Allams are behaving disgracefully and, so far, the words have come pretty easily.
What would be good to know is AP thanks us for our efforts, or if we are, has been suggested, making the situation any worse....Wilf?
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| Quote ="Standee"
That doesn't ring true, I remember "judge a man, not by his words, but by his deeds", I think it's fair to say any unbiased jusry would see through this for what it is, an ego driven agenda [uto get his hand on what he always wanted, the Kingston Communication Stadium and it's surroundings.[/u'"
Nail on head and imo I don't think the Stadium is first on his list, I think he wants the surrounding land which will make him the most money. He's already stated the people of Hull don't like Hull Fair so Walton Street should be pretty easy for him to develop shouldn't it
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| Quote ="Kosh"I hope you're not expecting a reply.
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More just making the point. I have ended up in forum tennis with this guy in the past. Unfortunately he is unwilling to accept anyone else's opinion, even in the light of significant evidence.
Back in topic, that the head of the SMC sent an employee of another company to to answer their questions speaks volumes.
I go back to my point of implied terms of contract.
The strange thing is, historically there never used to be any discord between Hull FC and Hull City. However with the advent of the "new" football fan, you know, the ones who now follow the sport because its a fashionable thing to do, comes a level of contempt to anything which is not football.
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| Quote ="Standee"will PM you'"
replied back with info, levy also replied to say more on the story at 12pm. Lets get this all over the place. We have a great club with a great history no one person can wipe that out, no matter how hard he want's to.
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| Quote ="flezmundo"replied back with info, levy also replied to say more on the story at 12pm. Lets get this all over the place. We have a great club with a great history no one person can wipe that out, no matter how hard he want's to.'"
I called him, they need someone to actually speak on air, given what I do for a living that could be professional suicide, Pete Allen isn't around, they want to speak to a fan about how they feel and how angry/upset it has made them, does anyone want me to put them in touch, I have the editors direct number........ We need a willing volunteer by 10:45 so they can plan it into the programme.
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| didn't Shane Richardson agree with the old smc mmanagement ie Adam Pearson that when hull fc moved to the kc stadium that the smc would get all the gate money from crowds over 7,500 and does this still happen or have I got this wrong lol
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| Quote ="Standee"Thanks, as I put on my Facebook yesterday, they poked the dog at the wrong time, I am off work for a few more weeks so I have time on my hands, a good crusade is welcome distraction from being bored! I write stuff like this as a huge part of my professional life too, combine the two together and that, regardless of what some might think, I love my club and I believe the Allams are behaving disgracefully and, so far, the words have come pretty easily.
What would be good to know is AP thanks us for our efforts, or if we are, has been suggested, making the situation any worse....Wilf?'"
Personally I think it is best for Adam and the club to keep very quiet on the subject in public, he seems to have more than enough problems behind away from the public domain which keep surfacing with regards to the Allam's. We as fans need to keep the pressure on and I have already e-mailed Alan Johnson the MP for Hessle and West Hull, fans can also help by attending the regular surgeries whcih their local councillers hold in their respective wards and showing their displeasure at the treatment we are receiving.
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| Quote ="Standee"What would be good to know is AP thanks us for our efforts, or if we are, has been suggested, making the situation any worse....Wilf?'"
Happy that the club is maintaining its silence at this stage and letting the fans vent their anger. It's more powerful than the club saying that they don't want to pay for the privilege. Even more so when the perpetrator has laughably claimed in the past that he wants to give something back to the people of Hull. Frankly the Council should insist that both tenants are represented equally in the stadium in all aspects - not just memorabilia - and that the likes of pictures and decor are outwith commercial agreements since they provide a heritage angle to some of the City's sporting greats and achievements. As has been stated if this can't be achieved then close inspection as to the reasons for the worrying decline in the state of the SMC's financial situation should swiftly follow.
Conflict of interest was always at some point going to be a problem and that problem has now surfaced thanks to the change in ownership of City/SMC.
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| Quite simple for me - take a can of spray paint to the next Fc home game and give the walls a bit of paint which the Allams can pay to have cleaned off !
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Quite simple for me - take a can of spray paint to the next Fc home game and give the walls a bit of paint which the Allams can pay to have cleaned off !'"
And get a criminal record for vandalism, CCTV everywhere....?
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| Quote ="Standee"And get a criminal record for vandalism, CCTV everywhere....?'"
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Spray the camera lenses first then'"
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| To be perfectly Honest the whole point of this which has actually annoyed me is what they have done with the Suite named after Johnny Whiteley.
Now my understanding is all the photo's of Johnny in that Suite where actually placed there by the Council not Hull Fc, so it Annoys me that the Allam's are actually trying to charge us for something that wasn't anything to do with the club in the first place.
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| Quote ="HullFC50"Personally I think it is best for Adam and the club to keep very quiet on the subject in public, he seems to have more than enough problems behind away from the public domain which keep surfacing with regards to the Allam's. We as fans need to keep the pressure on and I have already e-mailed Alan Johnson the MP for Hessle and West Hull, fans can also help by attending the regular surgeries whcih their local councillers hold in their respective wards and showing their displeasure at the treatment we are receiving.'"
Is Mr Johnson on our Board now?
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| Quote ="Standee"I called him, they need someone to actually speak on air, given what I do for a living that could be professional suicide, Pete Allen isn't around, they want to speak to a fan about how they feel and how angry/upset it has made them, does anyone want me to put them in touch, I have the editors direct number........ We need a willing volunteer by 10:45 so they can plan it into the programme.'"
Already had a call off them this morning, on at 13:10, PM me anything you need me to add, will bring up points from your earlier posts
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| Quote ="FCTID"Is Mr Johnson on our Board now?'"
Hes on the foundation/charity board iirc
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| Someone earlier in the thread mentioned the publicity photos on display of BonJovi, REM, Under 21 England Team etc. Can anyone confirm that they are actually still there? I don't recall seeing them, but then I am not particularly observant. I am in the process of firing off a few e-mails at the moment, so I will include a question asking who is paying for their inclusion. Can't see Jon BonJovi posting a cheque to the SMC every year.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Already had a call off them this morning, on at 13:10, PM me anything you need me to add, will bring up points from your earlier posts
cheers'"
Ask him if you can have a slot on his Look North show tonight.
But make sure you get your hair parting right for the camera.
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