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| Quote ="FC MONK"Because what more do people want. If people can't afford it then fair enough. But so called fans saying I'll wait and see what happens is a joke. If we all took that attitude there would be no club. Thank god for real fans'"
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Seeing as I have already locked a thread on this subject on our board I was just seeing the lay of the land.
Also I was unaware you did polite conversation with anyone, Well done for keeping that such a secret maybe you should contact MI5/MI6 as they could use your subterfuge skills of that I'm sure.'"
don't try and be clever, it's clearly well beyond your abilities.
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| Quote ="Standee"don't try and be clever, it's clearly well beyond your abilities.'" I'm never clever I'm always to busy being honest.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"I'm never clever I'm always to busy being honest.'"
good for you, why not go and discuss your own club, on your own forum, with your own fellow supporters?
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| Quote ="Standee"good for you, why not go and discuss your own club, on your own forum, with your own fellow supporters?'" I am as Firefox has these wonderful things called 'tabs' they are a marveolus idea it means you can open more that one webpage at the same time so in this case I can chat with you and someone on our board without needing to leave either conversation.
Perhaps you could try them.
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| Quote ="Standee"good for you, why not go and discuss your own club, on your own forum, with your own fellow supporters?'"
To be fair Standee they have more chance of discussing things with their own supporters on this board as most of them frequent this one more than their own.
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| stande is the biggest troll on this website he winds everyone up the wrong way and gets away with it
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| Why can't other fans visit other teams boards?
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| Quote ="Cab Crab"stande is the biggest troll on this website he winds everyone up the wrong way and gets away with it
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So says you,troll of the month
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Why can't other fans visit other teams boards?'"
Not saying the shouldn't, but when it's just for the purposes of trolling like the vast majority of the KR loons coming on here it's just sad and pathetic.
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| Quote ="Standee"Not saying the shouldn't, but when it's just for the purposes of trolling like the vast majority of the KR loons coming on here it's just sad and pathetic.'"
Not every kr fans trolling though, your always going to get your idiots but I wouldn't tar them all with the same brush.
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| A note of caution. For both sides really.
Because of the franchise system and the differences between Hull and Rovers, I've unintentionally learned a little about accountancy since joining RLfans. One thing seems clear to me - a good RL club accountant is as much about advocacy as accuracy. You can't flat-out lie, but figures can be manipulated and presented in different ways to create different narratives. In the past the Hull board thought it desirable to show profits to be able present themselves as capable custodians - and they were able to do that. AP has a different agenda - it suits him to be the saviour. So poor figures are reported. Pleading poverty also works well in terms of trying to get a better deal on the KC - it's clearly no coincidence that that story came out the same day. So while Rovers trolls/fans might be amused that the KC is being presented as an onerous burden, nothing has really changed - AP knew that agreement as well as anyone. In part, it'll be about appearing weak to strengthen a negotiating position.
[uI'm not saying that things haven't taken a turn for the worse[/u, but that a reversal of spin probably makes it seem more serious than it is.
So Hull fans can maybe temper the gloom a little. But in 12 months from now, when there'll likely be a story about how losses have been slashed or a return to profitability, while elevating Pearson from forum Knighthood to Sainthood, it'd be sensible to also recall the thread frepneyboy pulled up earlier and remember they only tell you what suits - at all clubs, tbf, it'd be a bit dozey to paint yourself in a bad light.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"That is a rather sweeping statement Kosh.
I thought you were above that.'"
It's an evidence-based statement based on the best available evidence - i.e. this thread. As a scientist I'm more or less obliged to draw conclusions based on available data.
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| Quote ="Isaiah"What a silly Richard
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"A note of caution. For both sides really.
Because of the franchise system and the differences between Hull and Rovers, I've unintentionally learned a little about accountancy since joining RLfans. One thing seems clear to me - a good RL club accountant is as much about advocacy as accuracy. You can't flat-out lie, but figures can be manipulated and presented in different ways to create different narratives. In the past the Hull board thought it desirable to show profits to be able present themselves as capable custodians - and they were able to do that. AP has a different agenda - it suits him to be the saviour. So poor figures are reported. Pleading poverty also works well in terms of trying to get a better deal on the KC - it's clearly no coincidence that that story came out the same day. So while Rovers trolls/fans might be amused that the KC is being presented as an onerous burden, nothing has really changed - AP knew that agreement as well as anyone. In part, it'll be about appearing weak to strengthen a negotiating position.
[uI'm not saying that things haven't taken a turn for the worse[/u, but that a reversal of spin probably makes it seem more serious than it is.
So Hull fans can maybe temper the gloom a little. But in 12 months from now, when there'll likely be a story about how losses have been slashed or a return to profitability, while elevating Pearson from forum Knighthood to Sainthood, it'd be sensible to also recall the thread frepneyboy pulled up earlier and remember they only tell you what suits - at all clubs, tbf, it'd be a bit dozey to paint yourself in a bad light.'"
An eminently sensible post. Doubt it'll gain much traction, mind.
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| Quote ="Kosh":2txxh6hgIt's an evidence-based statement based on the best available evidence - i.e. this thread. As a scientist I'm more or less obliged to draw conclusions based on available data.
'" :2txxh6hg[Pedant ModeMore than 5 (Or 6 if you want to go there) haven't even commented never mind those showing some level of brightness [/Pedant Mode
[Tongue in cheek mode As a scientist I thought you would have noticed that [/Tongue in cheek mode'"
I extrapolated.
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| Quote ="Kosh"An eminently sensible post. Doubt it'll gain much traction, mind.
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I didn't want to reply first as it would seem a little false TBH (MR=Rovers mod and I am a Rovers mod).
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| Quote ="Kosh"An eminently sensible post. Doubt it'll gain much traction, mind.
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Sensible [iis[/i just a polite euphemism for 'boring' in my case, in fairness.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"A note of caution. For both sides really.
Because of the franchise system and the differences between Hull and Rovers, I've unintentionally learned a little about accountancy since joining RLfans. One thing seems clear to me - a good RL club accountant is as much about advocacy as accuracy. You can't flat-out lie, but figures can be manipulated and presented in different ways to create different narratives. In the past the Hull board thought it desirable to show profits to be able present themselves as capable custodians - and they were able to do that. AP has a different agenda - it suits him to be the saviour. So poor figures are reported. Pleading poverty also works well in terms of trying to get a better deal on the KC - it's clearly no coincidence that that story came out the same day. So while Rovers trolls/fans might be amused that the KC is being presented as an onerous burden, nothing has really changed - AP knew that agreement as well as anyone. In part, it'll be about appearing weak to strengthen a negotiating position.
[uI'm not saying that things haven't taken a turn for the worse[/u, but that a reversal of spin probably makes it seem more serious than it is.
So Hull fans can maybe temper the gloom a little. But in 12 months from now, when there'll likely be a story about how losses have been slashed or a return to profitability, while elevating Pearson from forum Knighthood to Sainthood, it'd be sensible to also recall the thread frepneyboy pulled up earlier and remember they only tell you what suits - at all clubs, tbf, it'd be a bit dozey to paint yourself in a bad light.'"
Started reading it but I saw a small amount of optimism and that is so not allowed on here, so stopped.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"A note of caution. For both sides really.
Because of the franchise system and the differences between Hull and Rovers, I've unintentionally learned a little about accountancy since joining RLfans. One thing seems clear to me - a good RL club accountant is as much about advocacy as accuracy. You can't flat-out lie, but figures can be manipulated and presented in different ways to create different narratives. In the past the Hull board thought it desirable to show profits to be able present themselves as capable custodians - and they were able to do that. AP has a different agenda - it suits him to be the saviour. So poor figures are reported. Pleading poverty also works well in terms of trying to get a better deal on the KC - it's clearly no coincidence that that story came out the same day. So while Rovers trolls/fans might be amused that the KC is being presented as an onerous burden, nothing has really changed - AP knew that agreement as well as anyone. In part, it'll be about appearing weak to strengthen a negotiating position.
[uI'm not saying that things haven't taken a turn for the worse[/u, but that a reversal of spin probably makes it seem more serious than it is.
So Hull fans can maybe temper the gloom a little. But in 12 months from now, when there'll likely be a story about how losses have been slashed or a return to profitability, while elevating Pearson from forum Knighthood to Sainthood, it'd be sensible to also recall the thread frepneyboy pulled up earlier and remember they only tell you what suits - at all clubs, tbf, it'd be a bit dozey to paint yourself in a bad light.'"
Thank you
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| Sorry if already been mentioned but didnt pearson make a remark about the players been put as assets in your figures and not been happy with it? We all know thats the case so in reality seen as though hull are one of only a couple of teams that do this, would hull of been putting in losses every year instead of showing profit?? If rovers put there players as assets and a value similar to what hull put then wouldnt we of shown a profit also every year?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Not every kr fans trolling though, your always going to get your idiots but I wouldn't tar them all with the same brush.'"
I would,and feather them too.
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| Quote ="coatsy"Sorry if already been mentioned but didnt pearson make a remark about the players been put as assets in your figures and not been happy with it? We all know thats the case so in reality seen as though hull are one of only a couple of teams that do this, would hull of been putting in losses every year instead of showing profit?? If rovers put there players as assets and a value similar to what hull put then wouldnt we of shown a profit also every year?'"
Your probably right,but at the end of the day it is not going to affect any of our household budgets,so I reckon we should let the clubs accountants worry about it.Its not a massive loss compared to some sports.
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