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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Anyone clued up on the nrl reserve league or nrl who can suggest some realistic Props or Second Rows?
I think a big emphasis will go on promoting youth, backed up by about 4 signings. Wouldnt suprise me to see Matty English, as well as 2 overseas signings possibly a loose forward and a second Row who pack a punch in attack and defense.'"
Not English. He's just signed a contract extension at Huddersfield.
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| I'd take a look at Owen Trout from Hudds since they've kept English. He's only 23. Had big raps at Leeds and has done well since moving to Hudds.
Jayden Berrell would be worth a shot too if we are looking for a new 9. Dominated the Q Cup in 2021 (I think) moved to the Sharks but hasn't really had a shot. Cronulla are really well covered at hooker. Had a very good year in the NSW Cup last season too.
He's too good for the aussie reserve grade, but just hasn't got a decent go in 1st grade.
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| Quote ="mwindass"I'd take a look at Owen Trout from Hudds since they've kept English. He's only 23. Had big raps at Leeds and has done well since moving to Hudds.
Jayden Berrell would be worth a shot too if we are looking for a new 9. Dominated the Q Cup in 2021 (I think) moved to the Sharks but hasn't really had a shot. Cronulla are really well covered at hooker. Had a very good year in the NSW Cup last season too.
He's too good for the aussie reserve grade, but just hasn't got a decent go in 1st grade.'"
Was it you who mentioned Amone would be a good signing? Any current reserve grade second rows or props worth a punt? I think Satae needs some help we need a busy prop who makes good consistent yards.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Was it you who mentioned Amone would be a good signing? Any current reserve grade second rows or props worth a punt? I think Satae needs some help we need a busy prop who makes good consistent yards.'"
Yeah...... now he's playing really well for Leigh
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| Oh to have Motu Tony back , he had a great eye for very good under the radar signings . The reserve game in Australia is littered with big bad South Sea Islanders but let’s be honest - at the moment why come to Hull to put yourself in the window? Got a better shot in the NSW Cup where they can attract potential suitors .
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| We have to forget about "club Hull". There is no more pride than winning, from wherever you are born. Winning is a mentality, and one we have failed to build on after 2016&17 . There is not going to be an exodus of 20 players, off contract, that would be akin to getting promoted and having to assemble a completely new team and we have to be honest and say we are probably not financially muscular enough to recruit stars from SL or elsewhere. We need to bring through our own players, if good enough, and grab some unknowns from the Aussie reserve grade by giving them the idea of Kingston Upon Thames, as it went with Wade Mckinnon!!!
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| I think "club hull" has been our downfall with a mixture of players born in the city not playing with pride and having questionable mentalitys, players born in the city retained too long, and players born in the city overrated and kept on.
Poor judgement from whoevers in charge of recuitment and retention.
Were way way too sentimental and loyal to hull born players
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| I think we do need a complete clear out playing staff wise but it's unrealistic to do it in one off season, we're not playing fifa, there's only a small amount of players available who'd improve our squad, I can see a few 1 year deals been handed out while we slowly rebuild our squad.
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| I'm not sure "club hull" has been a thing for quite a few years tbh.
We haven't gone out of our way to sign/retain Hull born players over non-Hull players recently as far as I can tell.
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| Quote ="Yippee try yay"I think we do need a complete clear out playing staff wise but it's unrealistic to do it in one off season, we're not playing fifa, there's only a small amount of players available who'd improve our squad, I can see a few 1 year deals been handed out while we slowly rebuild our squad.'"
Very good point.
Finding 2 quality quota replacements shouldn't be a problem if we get in early enough as there is a big pool of talent in the NRL. However there isn't in SL and other clubs will be looking at those players.
We might not like it but we may have to give 1 year deals and rebuild over a couple of years.
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| This is the problem I have with our contract situation, who thought it would be such a good idea to have so many players OOC in the same season? Just comes across as poor management
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"This is the problem I have with our contract situation, who thought it would be such a good idea to have so many players OOC in the same season? Just comes across as poor management'"
Some of those players must have very good agents!!
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| I was listening to the Bloke In A Bar podcast. They were talking about the Dolphins and how difficult it was for them to recruit players last season.
Something like 50/60% of players were off contract last season, and only 20/30% off players actually moved clubs.
If SL is like this, then we are fishing in a small pond
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| Quote ="mwindass"I was listening to the Bloke In A Bar podcast. They were talking about the Dolphins and how difficult it was for them to recruit players last season.
Something like 50/60% of players were off contract last season, and only 20/30% off players actually moved clubs.
If SL is like this, then we are fishing in a small pond'"
SL is worst, there seems to be a lot more player movement in the NRL.
If we could pick up 2 NRL 9Or Uk based quota players) players to replacement Lovodua and Evans and a couple of younger Uk based players for Shaul and Houghton. I think we will have done Ok.
Youth is the only way we will be successful in the next few years, supplemented with good overseas players.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"I think "club hull" has been our downfall with a mixture of players born in the city not playing with pride and having questionable mentalitys, players born in the city retained too long, and players born in the city overrated and kept on.
Poor judgement from whoevers in charge of recuitment and retention.
Were way way too sentimental and loyal to hull born players'"
And when they finish we take them into the clubs off field staff.
Talk of Houghton going into the coaching team next season and it wouldnt surprise me
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| Quote ="bonaire"And when they finish we take them into the clubs off field staff.
Talk of Houghton going into the coaching team next season and it wouldnt surprise me'"
What would be wrong with that? If he's done or doing his qualifications he might make a good coach for the youngsters.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"What would be wrong with that? If he's done or doing his qualifications he might make a good coach for the youngsters.'"
he might but if we are looking for another coach for the younger players then surely you put the position out to others and make the decision from interviews not because he has been a Hull Fc player
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"This is the problem I have with our contract situation, who thought it would be such a good idea to have so many players OOC in the same season? Just comes across as poor management'"
Some of thay could be down to the SKY deal ending tbf, if SKY cough up even less cash from next season then many clubs including us will decide to run with a few less senior players.
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| Looking at the NRL OOC list....
If their is an outside chance that JWH is coming to SL we should be all over it. He's exactly what we need in terms of leadership and accountability.
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| Quote ="mwindass"Looking at the NRL OOC list....
If their is an outside chance that JWH is coming to SL we should be all over it. He's exactly what we need in terms of leadership and accountability.'"
Saint, Wigan, Wire and Hudds would be all over it. We’ve no chance of signing a big name Aussie, unless we do a Chelsea and sign him on a 7 year contract
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Saint, Wigan, Wire and Hudds would be all over it. We’ve no chance of signing a big name Aussie, unless we do a Chelsea and sign him on a 7 year contract
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Don't spoil the fun
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Saint, Wigan, Wire and Hudds would be all over it. We’ve no chance of signing a big name Aussie, unless we do a Chelsea and sign him on a 7 year contract
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Our next problem is we are going to have to offer big salaries to tempt anyone decent to join. Players and Agents can see the club is struggling with questions over the atmosphere at the club. For some they'd take a slightly lower offer to say sit in the sun at Catalans, or be at a team with a chance of making the playoffs than risk the doom and gloom here.
Hope the club has the numbers for some ex players down under as well, surely theres some money to be offered for watching reserve grade NRL and finding a gem
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| Quote ="UllFC"Our next problem is we are going to have to offer big salaries to tempt anyone decent to join. Players and Agents can see the club is struggling with questions over the atmosphere at the club. For some they'd take a slightly lower offer to say sit in the sun at Catalans, or be at a team with a chance of making the playoffs than risk the doom and gloom here.
Hope the club has the numbers for some ex players down under as well, surely theres some money to be offered for watching reserve grade NRL and finding a gem'"
Uncle Tony found two gems this year, turnstile tex and Clifford
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| Quote ="mwindass"Looking at the NRL OOC list.... :
If their is an outside chance that JWH is coming to SL we should be all over it. He's exactly what we need in terms of leadership and accountability.'"
He’ll be more of a penalty machine than Sao and spend more time sat in the stands?
Especially with our officials
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