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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"There is no chance any club would come out and say that they are releasing somebody because they think he is injured. The club and medical staff would look incredibly foolish if Connor lines up for Huddersfield in round 1. Leaving it up to the media to report on it being a possibility saves face.'"
wasting your time trying to get through to that guy that the club give the information and news for the HDM to print
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| For me for what its worth we have lost a guy who was a liability, a penalty machine and someone who as he got older never really grew up.... oh and a player without whom we would have probably gone down last season.
Everyone on here has to admit for so many games when Connor didn't play we were clueless. Still perhaps its for the best for Both the Club and the player. That said as I have mentioned on here before as a Club we have only one solution to a player we can't manage, move him on. The top clubs take on difficult cases and even 'basket cases' and make good lads of them, not through the coach but more by the culture of the organisation.
However for me to lose two maverick type players in Sneyd and Connor in one year when such players are in such short supply, is I think an indication that we simply don't have that culture at our club. Talk about saying what we all know!!!
However like it or not, both players have won us many matches almost on their own and both are gone. Sneyd went, I know first hand, because he saw himself as central to the structure, that the attack played, and the Coach didn't like it and wanted to change it and now Connor is gone as well. Now Sneyd has gone on to claim international honours in the World Cup in his first year at a new club, whilst Jake has already appeared for the national team and will no doubt do so again. A lot now hangs on their replacements and our new coaches ability to get a team with the right culture firing in attack without them. Something for which I have the greatest belief that Tony Smith will do that. Thank heavens we have got a proper Coach at last!
As everyone says we move on with hope and expectation, of course we do because as fans hope is all we have but I wonder how much we will miss Jake . Good luck to him and lets hope he grows up a bit!
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| Connor I can cope with, he’s felt more trouble than he’s worth in many ways. But that Hull Fair shirt is unforgivable.
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| Quote ="the cal train"Connor I can cope with, he’s felt more trouble than he’s worth in many ways. But that Hull Fair shirt is unforgivable.'"
Yeah not sure if it's a third shirt or a turd shirt.
Maybe Jake refused to wear it and thats why he was released....
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| Well we've got a very experienced coach, and a brand new set of pivots.
Hoy
Trueman/Clifford
Lovodua/dwyer
Plenty of pace we previously lacked and creativity spread out rather than channelled all through one player.
Hopefully a couple more signings to come and lets hope we finally have luck with injurys.
Good foundations set in pivots, and a huge amount of cap available to build around those signings end of next season
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| Maybe the hull fair shirt was the final straw for him
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| we wasted him at FB - that was mental to play him there
utter madness and BH should have been fired for thinking that
injury prone but will be a very very handy 6 for Giants
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"we wasted him at FB - that was mental to play him there
utter madness and BH should have been fired for thinking that
injury prone but will be a very very handy 6 for Giants'"
He was awful for us at stand off. I admit he was pretty poor in a lot of respects at fullback, but we performed even worse with him at 6. I suspect like us, Giants will get 6/7 games out of him pulling rabbits out of a hat, and the rest of the season injured or poor.
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| Quote ="mwindass"Be interesting to see how much of the season he misses'"
Well according to our coach between 4-6 months. You appear to be out of date in Hull regarding current treatment on this type of injury. 10 months may have been needed in the past but no longer. The club have consulted widely in the NRL and over here, and of course with the consultants involved and 4-6 months appears to be consensus. Liam sutcliffe had a similar injury last year and was back within that time period.
Connor has already had the surgery so the clock has already started, Watson has said there’s a possibility he may even be ready for the start of the season- but obviously he will have had no preseason so it’s unlikely that will be the case.
I suspect the 10 month quoted was a combination of bad journalism and spin.
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| Thanks Jools for copying and pasting an online article, don't know what we would do without you.
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| Played his best games for us at centre. Lack of pace exposed his game at full back, and never convinced at 6.
We relied on him too much and it was a case of “give it to Connor”.
Think he’d have been even better for us if it wasn’t all on him.
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| There’s nothing quite like a supercilious poster Is there?..
Perhaps jools was just letting folk see an on line article that they hadn’t previously seen..
On subject of Connor.
A thought for the few vocal fans on here that wanted him to stay..
He made it clear some months ago he no longer wanted to play for FC.
So why make a player fulfill his last year contract when he doesn’t want to be at the club.
Accept he’s gone and let’s move on.
Time will tell if he can win the giants a trophy.
I hope he does actually for Ken Davys sake.
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| I think somewhere between the two you'll find the more accurate estimate. Hull will obviously spin it their way and Huddersfield the same. Only time will tell.
I was pretty neutral on his release to be honest, probably leaning more towards being disappointed, but everything i've seen or read this week makes me think Hull have made the right decision .
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"There’s nothing quite like a supercilious poster Is there?..
Perhaps jools was just letting folk see an on line article that they hadn’t previously seen..
On subject of Connor.
A thought for the few vocal fans on here that wanted him to stay..
He made it clear some months ago he no longer wanted to play for FC.
So why make a player fulfill his last year contract when he doesn’t want to be at the club.
Accept he’s gone and let’s move on.
Time will tell if he can win the giants a trophy.
I hope he does actually for Ken Davys sake.'"
It's also on the other thread, plus Jools has a real bee in her bonnet when it comes to Hull/Connor and Pearson, just coming on here to have digs at the club. Still not sure she is over it.
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| Quote ="jools"Well according to our coach between 4-6 months. You appear to be out of date in Hull regarding current treatment on this type of injury. 10 months may have been needed in the past but no longer. The club have consulted widely in the NRL and over here, and of course with the consultants involved and 4-6 months appears to be consensus. Liam sutcliffe had a similar injury last year and was back within that time period.
Connor has already had the surgery so the clock has already started, Watson has said there’s a possibility he may even be ready for the start of the season- but obviously he will have had no preseason so it’s unlikely that will be the case.
I suspect the 10 month quoted was a combination of bad journalism and spin.'"
And of course your coach would never put spin on anything he says
Time will tell?
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| Quote ="davey41"Quote ="jools"Well according to our coach between 4-6 months. You appear to be out of date in Hull regarding current treatment on this type of injury. 10 months may have been needed in the past but no longer. The club have consulted widely in the NRL and over here, and of course with the consultants involved and 4-6 months appears to be consensus. Liam sutcliffe had a similar injury last year and was back within that time period.
Connor has already had the surgery so the clock has already started, Watson has said there’s a possibility he may even be ready for the start of the season- but obviously he will have had no preseason so it’s unlikely that will be the case.
I suspect the 10 month quoted was a combination of bad journalism and spin.'"
And of course your coach would never put spin on anything he says
Time will tell?'"
To be honest Davey I think Watson is being a tad optimistic that Jake will be back in 4-6 months considering it seems he has had both a PCL and a microfracture injury that has required surgery. My brother in law only had a microfracture issue which he had surgery on the first week of November last year, it took him until late June/July before he could even think about starting to run again, he is still not back to running like he used too yet and he didn't have any real complications in his rehab.
Every ones different and the extent of injury will differ so will recovery times but for me it seems very optimistic to suggest 4 to 6 months so soon after his surgery. No doubt if Connor isn't back in 4 to 6 months Watson will simply come out with the standard coaches comment 'they don't need to rush him back and they are taking time to make sure he is fully fit etc'.
All in all the move has been best for both club and Jake and hopefully he makes a full recovery and realises his full potential, naturally I'm still disappointed he is no longer at our club.
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| Quote ="jools"Well according to our coach between 4-6 months. You appear to be out of date in Hull regarding current treatment on this type of injury. 10 months may have been needed in the past but no longer. The club have consulted widely in the NRL and over here, and of course with the consultants involved and 4-6 months appears to be consensus. Liam sutcliffe had a similar injury last year and was back within that time period.
Connor has already had the surgery so the clock has already started, Watson has said there’s a possibility he may even be ready for the start of the season- but obviously he will have had no preseason so it’s unlikely that will be the case.
I suspect the 10 month quoted was a combination of bad journalism and spin.'"
I love it when people put NRL in there point to try and make it look like they are right.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"I love it when people put NRL in there point to try and make it look like they are right.'"
Funny how first of all I’m quoting an online post, next I’m putting NRL in a post to make it look like I’m right.
schrodingers post eh.
So what is it that hurts so much, that fact he’s gone, or the fact he’s gone for nothing.
I wasn’t aware you lot would have seen a post from our club- why would I be? I don’t particularly watch interviews from your coach as a rule. Didn’t realise we were that interesting to you.
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| Quote ="jools"Funny how first of all I’m quoting an online post, next I’m putting NRL in a post to make it look like I’m right.
schrodingers post eh.
So what is it that hurts so much, that fact he’s gone, or the fact he’s gone for nothing.
I wasn’t aware you lot would have seen a post from our club- why would I be? I don’t particularly watch interviews from your coach as a rule. Didn’t realise we were that interesting to you.'"
Judging by the small number of people who turn up to watch, it appears you're not that interesting to many people.
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| Quote ="jools"Funny how first of all I’m quoting an online post, next I’m putting NRL in a post to make it look like I’m right.
schrodingers post eh.
So what is it that hurts so much, that fact he’s gone, or the fact he’s gone for nothing.
I wasn’t aware you lot would have seen a post from our club- why would I be? I don’t particularly watch interviews from your coach as a rule. Didn’t realise we were that interesting to you.'"
Whose hurt ? By Connor going ?
Lets be honest we tried to offload him to every club (hence why he was free) and your club was the only ones who bit. Presumably after your dismal play off performance your club wanted to make a mark and also try and attract new fans because come grading time youd be nothing without Davy and IMG will see through that.
You never tried passing a message on either, you opened by digging at Hull and suggesting that we are behind the times. We shall see wont we who proves to be right on that front.
I couldnt care less about Connor being here either, hes a good player but has also played his part in the downfall of the club. We will move on and I am sure for the better.
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| Quote ="jools"Funny how first of all I’m quoting an online post, next I’m putting NRL in a post to make it look like I’m right.
schrodingers post eh.
So what is it that hurts so much, that fact he’s gone, or the fact he’s gone for nothing.
I wasn’t aware you lot would have seen a post from our club- why would I be? I don’t particularly watch interviews from your coach as a rule. Didn’t realise we were that interesting to you.'"
Personally not bothered about Connor leaving but have to admit i am disappointed we didnt receive a fee.
Can you take Griffin? no problem there if we dont get a fee
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| bonaire wrote:
Personally not bothered about Connor leaving but have to admit i am disappointed we didnt receive a fee.
Can you take Griffin? no problem there if we dont get a fee.
Not so sure why people get hung up about fees.
RL is not awash with money and if it instantly saves you eg £200,000 a year in salary for a player who doesn't want to be here, we move on and use the cap space wisely to improve the squad.
Making Jake sit tight for a year, for a fee that might not appear, for a player who doesn't want to be here and potentially disrupt squad harmony makes no sense.
Would you be happier if we could have thrown Griffin in on a 2 for 1 deal though?
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| Connor was the modern day Mick Crane for me
A fantastic player but now seemingly unfit and injury prone
Jake never truly looked like a fitness fanatic
More of a Gazza player than a Ronaldo
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Connor was the modern day Mick Crane for me
A fantastic player but now seemingly unfit and injury prone
Jake never truly looked like a fitness fanatic
More of a Gazza player than a Ronaldo'"
Funny because one of your fans was quick to tell me just a couple of weeks ago how he had a direct hand in about 40% of your points last season. That’s with his missing games! You would Potentially have been looking at relegation without him- certainly things would have been a lot more uncomfortable.
But now he’s gone suddenly he’s not all that.
Connor will be a bit part in the giants team, not the only thing going like he was at Hull. That will take the pressure off him, reduce his frustrations, I think that will enable him to be even better.
Hopefully with TS coming in he will get FC playing a better brand of rugby than the dire stuff you were used to under radford and hodgson. He’s known for allowing his teams to play what’s in front of them and not boring one up stuff. Hopefully give the fans some entertainment.
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