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| Quote ="Dave K."The position Lovodua will play isca bigger concern than where Connor will play.'"
The more people are talking about Lovodua, even Dan Tomlinson is asking the same questions now, the more I am thinking he won’t be here next season?
If he isn’t going to be hooker then get rid and sign someone who is.
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| Quote ="davey41"The more people are talking about Lovodua, even Dan Tomlinson is asking the same questions now, the more I am thinking he won’t be here next season?
If he isn’t going to be hooker then get rid and sign someone who is.'"
I thought Hodgson said that Joey will be here season?
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| Quote ="davey41"Quote ="Dave K."The position Lovodua will play isca bigger concern than where Connor will play.'"
The more people are talking about Lovodua, even Dan Tomlinson is asking the same questions now, the more I am thinking he won’t be here next season?
If he isn’t going to be hooker then get rid and sign someone who is.'"
For me Lovodua should now be playing 9 until the end of the season as it was the position he was brought in to the club to play originally. We need to see if he will indeed make an improvement at 9 (as we expect he will). If we are not going to play him at 9 or spell Houghton then for me I fail to see the logic in keeping him especially using a valuable quota spot. Don't get me wrong I like Lovodua but he is nothing special in the halves nor is he a player that I would have at LF or SR week in week out. So unless BH starts to play in him at 9 (in what is supposedly his favoured and best position) over Houghton then why keep him at all as his quota spot is of more value elsewhere.
I'm not sure why we would even be looking to give Houghton another year deal when we have Balmforth waiting in the wings who needs games at SL, he will have a full pre season to prepare for SL plus we also have Cator who can step in to spell at 9 too. Yes Balmforths fitness has rumoured to be an issue but between now and the start of next season then the coaching and fitness staff should have him fit enough & ready to do to able to do at least 2 x 20 minute spells in a game.
Personally I just think Houghton is now well best his best and another year would be 1 too many and a needless extension.
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| Quote ="Chris71"For me Lovodua should now be playing 9 until the end of the season as it was the position he was brought in to the club to play originally. We need to see if he will indeed make an improvement at 9 (as we expect he will). If we are not going to play him at 9 or spell Houghton then for me I fail to see the logic in keeping him especially using a valuable quota spot. Don't get me wrong I like Lovodua but he is nothing special in the halves nor is he a player that I would have at LF or SR week in week out. So unless BH starts to play in him at 9 (in what is supposedly his favoured and best position) over Houghton then why keep him at all as his quota spot is of more value elsewhere.'" You would think Lovodua would be desperate to play 9 given that is where he will probably be playing at the WC. While he may be taking up a quota space I imagine his impact on the salary cap would be quite low hence why we aren't restructuring his contract and simply taking the extra year in our favour.
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| Quote ="davey41"The more people are talking about Lovodua, even Dan Tomlinson is asking the same questions now, the more I am thinking he won’t be here next season?
If he isn’t going to be hooker then get rid and sign someone who is.'"
Have to agree. The fact that a new deal hasn’t been announced yet makes me wonder if he could be on his way.
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"Have to agree. The fact that a new deal hasn’t been announced yet makes me wonder if he could be on his way.'" He doesn't need a new deal, we just have to activate the year option that was in our favour.
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| Quote ="davey41"The more people are talking about Lovodua, even Dan Tomlinson is asking the same questions now, the more I am thinking he won’t be here next season?
If he isn’t going to be hooker then get rid and sign someone who is.'"
If Houghton leaves use Lovodua's quota spot and replace him with a specialist hooker.
If Houghton stays keep Smith (if he goes ok) as a replacement for Lovodua and play him from the bench and gradually ease Balmforth in.
Smith offers far better utility value then Lovodua as well.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"If Houghton leaves use Lovodua's quota spot and replace him with a specialist hooker.
If Houghton stays keep Smith (if he goes ok) as a replacement for Lovodua and play him from the bench and gradually ease Balmforth in.
Smith offers far better utility value then Lovodua as well.'"
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| Quote ="Rugby Raider"I’d play Jake at Loose Forward.
It would give him licence to join the line where he wants and create the chances he does.
We don’t have a ball handling Loose Forward and we need more pace at Full Back and Centre.'"
Funniest thing I have ever read.
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| Quote ="spegs"Quote ="Rugby Raider"I’d play Jake at Loose Forward.
It would give him licence to join the line where he wants and create the chances he does.
We don’t have a ball handling Loose Forward and we need more pace at Full Back and Centre.'"
Funniest thing I have ever read.'"
I'm wondering whether he'll even be here next season
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| ideal position for jake is loose foreward,biggest mistake rl did was phasing out ball playing 13s.he would be perfect there.
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| I'd be tempted to let him go....
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"I'd be tempted to let him go....'"
Finances may dictate if JC stays or goes. Isn't NRL standard but there has been a tentative enquiry from a team West of the Pennines, which as far as i aware hasn't been followed up.
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| We'd be relegation fodder if it wasn't for Connor this season
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"I'd be tempted to let him go....'"
That’s because of a deal which would help us financially, or is it Connor causing the disruption in the dressing room you posted a few days back, please elaborate.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"That’s because of a deal which would help us financially, or is it Connor causing the disruption in the dressing room you posted a few days back, please elaborate.'"
He just strikes me as being a divisive character on the pitch. Off the pitch he seems ok, nice kid around the club, but on the pitch when it appears to not be going right, he looks like a bit of a problem
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"He just strikes me as being a divisive character on the pitch. Off the pitch he seems ok, nice kid around the club, but on the pitch when it appears to not be going right, he looks like a bit of a problem'"
One thing is for sure, there is certainly something wrong in our club, if it’s true, they are arguing at half time in a match environment, we are the opposite of a team together, no wonder there’s no spirit, no fight, it’s terrible really, it strengthens my opinions that a stronger personality needs to replace Brett.
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"He just strikes me as being a divisive character on the pitch. Off the pitch he seems ok, nice kid around the club, but on the pitch when it appears to not be going right, he looks like a bit of a problem'"
On the pitch he's frustrated because he cares and doesn't like losing. Not sure that could be said for some of his team mates.
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| Quote ="spegs"Funniest thing I have ever read.'"
Really?
Why couldn’t Jake play at Loose Forward? He’s the best ball handler we have.
Or do you think we would better to continue playing some of our Prop Forwards there?
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| I'm in two minds, if he is dead set on leaving after next season, do we Cash in now, although think that would be the final straw for some fans and have we left it two late to replace him.
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| Hilarious some of the posts saying let him go.
The kid gives a toss, unlike some Hull born lads, I noticed Connor became a scapegoat not so long back when he argued with some of the golden Hull brigade on the pitch when they weren't pulling their weight or giving a toss.
The kids quality he wants to win, and. Good on him for voicing his opinions when others are making a mockery of wearing the shirt. Isn't that what Gale was brought into do????
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| Quote ="Dave K."I'm in two minds, if he is dead set on leaving after next season, do we Cash in now, although think that would be the final straw for some fans and have we left it two late to replace him.'"
If Canberra hadn’t pulled out of the deal then he would have been on his way at the end of the season.
I’ve stated previously that he still wants out and that’s because he wants to win trophies and has said he doesn’t see that happening here.
Like has been said, he at least shows he cares and can’t really blame him for wanting to move on given what’s going on at the club.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Hilarious some of the posts saying let him go.
The kid gives a toss, unlike some Hull born lads, I noticed Connor became a scapegoat not so long back when he argued with some of the golden Hull brigade on the pitch when they weren't pulling their weight or giving a toss.
The kids quality he wants to win, and. Good on him for voicing his opinions when others are making a mockery of wearing the shirt. Isn't that what Gale was brought into do????'"
It isn't just Hull fans, other fans are obsessed with him, hard to remember an over analysed player, misses ones tackle videos and comments all over social media, other players do the same and hardly a mention. Connors temperament comes from frustration with playing with poor players or poor attitudes.
I wish we had more players who cared as much as he did.
I'd keep him for another year and if he goes whenour of contract to a club with a better chance of winning something he would go with my best wishes.
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| Connor is our best player. He is irreplaceable.
Ideally he'd be a 6 but I do like him at "Loose Centre". He can defend there quite well, he is an excellent kick target/defender, he is dangerous close to the line, he can create breaks in midfield and he can wander about when we have the ball and cause trouble.
As for Loose Forward, anyone there has to tackle props. That's why we spell our 13s because all that defending is tiring. We can't have our best ball player getting beaten up and spending half the game getting his breath back.
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| Had to be 6 or maybe 13, has to play in the middle and get his hands on the ball as much as possible.
Defence isn't bad when playing in the line, just two slow when defending at FB.
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Also allow Hoy to play FB, who I think could be devastating in SL from FB with his pace and running game.
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