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| I agree, tomorrow we need to play Shaul at Full Back and Jake in the halves. It would be the least disruptive change.
Attacking wise, Jake can still be creative when attacking the line. Defensively we probably become stronger. Jake missed tackles for their first try, the try at the start of the second half and Eden then turned him inside out for the last.
Great that Cator is back, but it will take him a few games to re-build his match fitness.
If fit, Bowden has to be involved ahead of JJ. We need Evans to play 40-60 mins tomorrow too, not 20 mins. Brett really needs to rotate the bench properly.
It will be a tough ask tomorrow, but we just have to put the best team out that we can and take stock again next week.
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| Quote ="Woods1969"I've got an uneasy feeling that Jake won't be playing tomorrow, just the way they was working on him pre-match and the way he was holding his side/hip at the end of the game. I hope not but it wouldn't surprise me to see shaul at 1 and Houghton in the halves. Just pray to God he puts lovaduo at 9 and not Johnstone'"
Agreed, think you may be right on that one as Jake was out a good 20 mins before everyone else doing a huge amount of work on him.
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| I'd choose
Connor
Mitch
Griffin
Wynne
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| Quote ="weaver93"I'd choose
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Mitch
Griffin
Wynne
Swift
McNamara
Lovodua
Evans
Houghton
Brown
Sao
Savelio
Fash
Shaul
Cator
Satae
Bowden'"
Very bold, not chance of being the team, but I quite like it.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Quote ="weaver93"I'd choose
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Mitch
Griffin
Wynne
Swift
McNamara
Lovodua
Evans
Houghton
Brown
Sao
Savelio
Fash
Shaul
Cator
Satae
Bowden'"
Very bold, not chance of being the team, but I quite like it.'"
Its certainly an option and to be fair is a decent option, we need to keep both Houghton & Johnstone away from the halves as with McNamara we will create little as it is so we will snuff any creativity out with either Houghton or Johnstone partnering McNamara.
If BH does goes for either of them in the halves then I really would be concerned for the remaining season, as much as I'd like to keep Connor at FB missing both first choice halves and an understudy (Hookem) injured and with a fit Shaul then we have to go with Shaul at FB and Connor in the halves.
With Cator back there should be no reason to have Johnstone in the 17
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| If Johnstone is playing halfback I'm not going to watch it, he shouldn't be in the 17 as offers nothing.
Rather play Severs, im sure Saints or Leeds would, we just don't seem to give young players enough of a go.
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| If Wynne isn't fit then Cator might have to go back to playing centre.
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| Quote ="Dave K."If Johnstone is playing halfback I'm not going to watch it, he shouldn't be in the 17 as offers nothing.
Rather play Severs, im sure Saints or Leeds would, we just don't seem to give young players enough of a go.'"
Exactly and I don't quite understand why BH is persisting on playing Johnstone when he made it clear he was surplus to requirements at the end of last season. With Cator now back there should be no need for Johnstone to be in the 17. Severs has been given high praise from the Coach and club so surely with Lane's injury now is an opportunity to put him in. The likes of St's, Wigan and Leeds don't hesitate, they put trust in their prospects and give them a chance to shine knowing its no guarantee but they try it yet at Hull for some reason we still seem to have a mindset to put square pegs in round holes.
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| Shaul on the wing and Lovodua in the halves is the word im hearing
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"Shaul on the wing and Lovodua in the halves is the word im hearing'"
If Wynn is fit and in the 17 but still go with Shaul on the wing ahead of Vulikijapani then something is very wrong.
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| Not really a happy team at Hull, are we?
The selection is quite obvious and even we, the crowd, can see that Johnstone is purely there to fill a place , the kid is way out of his depth and it is unfair to persist with this , especially when ready made, trained and hungry prospects could be given a chance.. I get that they would normally be phased in to the action, alongside seasoned pro's but we don't have that luxury do we?
Got to start questioning the recruitment too, Reynolds is a great character, but I'd imagine he is in the higher wage bracket of our squad and his injury record, is concerning but also predictable, given his NRL stats just before we signed him. I seriously doubt that this coach is the man to lead us back up the SL ladder, I think he is way out of his depth and is not a great tactician, or it would seem, motivator. We should have gone with a disciplinarian type, we need a coach who inspires and will not accept the slack and careless attitude that pervades in the current squad.
I honestly think that Luke Gale's suspension has done for this team, along with a plethora of injured stars, we need to dig deep and tonight will tell us a lot about the team, in my opinion. Lose, or win, with pride - acceptable but lose and be careless and unprofessional and we really do have issues.
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| .... and to think, this time last week, everything was hunky dory.
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| Surely we can't go with Shaul on the wing again? Cas ran rings round him last week
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| Will hold my tongue till I see the line up but
Mitch has to play out wide.
Shaul fullback
Connor/Lovodua halfbacks
I'd even play Sao at loose forward over Fash and move Fash to the second row, and utilise our current strength which is our pack with Satae and Brown starting and Evans and Bowden off the bench
Boss it down the middle, lots of carries from the big lads let's tire Leeds out and give the ball to Connor and Lovodua near the Leeds line.
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| Connor 1, Shaul Wing, Mitch Centre, Lover 6, Sao 2nd row, Evans and Satae starting props Brown starting 13, JJ and Bowden on the bench, that's some of the team tonight.
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| Quote ="Ellam"Connor 1, Shaul Wing, Mitch Centre, Lover 6, Sao 2nd row, Evans and Satae starting props Brown starting 13, JJ and Bowden on the bench, that's some of the team tonight.'"
Were starting with 3 props? Should be an interesting formation
If of took mcnamara out for his own good and had Connor at halfback, Mcnamaras well out his depth as is Johnstone
Surely would of made more sense with Sao at loose forward and Fash to second Row?
This lineups going to baffle us all again isn't it hahaha
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| If lovodua is at 6, it'll be the battle of the show and gos between him and Austin all evening. Wonder how many our defence fall for tonight from Austin?
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| Quote ="Ellam"Connor 1, Shaul Wing, Mitch Centre, Lover 6, Sao 2nd row, Evans and Satae starting props Brown starting 13, JJ and Bowden on the bench, that's some of the team tonight.'"
It feels like Hodgson is picking names out of a hat.
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| Hardly surprising with Carlos, McIntosh, Reynolds, Gale, Scott, (and Hookem) and probably Wynne missing from the backs alone.
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| Don't know what to make of that line up.
Leeds look strong.
Think its going to be a long night.
Leeds 38 - hull 12. Hope I'm wrong
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| Looks as though we're going to use our pack strength hahaha
Well I suppose play to your strengths and hope to bully them with size and aggression
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| Deary me. Can we forfeit the game and take a lesser humiliation? Knowing our luck we'll pick up more injuries and suspensions for the Hudds game.
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| Lovodua in the halves could end up been genius or foolish.
But if nothing else it will be nice to have him on the pitch for the full game. I do also expect to see him still jump in at dummy half quite often if he sees the opportunity for a good scoot. I'm thinking we might see him play a bit of a hybrid of 6 and 9.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Were starting with 3 props? Should be an interesting formation
If of took mcnamara out for his own good and had Connor at halfback, Mcnamaras well out his depth as is Johnstone
Surely would of made more sense with Sao at loose forward and Fash to second Row?
This lineups going to baffle us all again isn't it hahaha'"
None of his selections lately make any sense
What is this love in with Johnstone?
A full back on the wing
A wing at centre
Our best nine option at 6
All because he wont move Connor from full back to 6
At least he has remembered Bowden who can supplement the 10 minutes each half Evans will play
Like Hodgson but as a coach he is alarmingly making too many selection errors
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Looks as though we're going to use our pack strength hahaha
Well I suppose play to your strengths and hope to bully them with size and aggression'"
what with two 10 minute each half front rows and Cator playing his first game for months
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