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| Fact is many of us who have been around all this a long time sort of think that this sort of thing doesn't usually happen unless said player has got somewhere else to go and so I think it will be with jones. In short who would be surprised if he has been tapped up and if he has then we want a big transfer fee. However the fact Clubs are in a financial position to be able to entice players away does for me raise another issue.
For me, although you can't blame players looking to their futures if their contracts are running out, I think that the RL should have put an embargo on any players moving or signing new contracts and frozen the whole situation whilst players are under furlough and until the future of the game and the length of this season was sorted. At present there are a lot of clubs like our own who are struggling to keep going day to day and who therefore daren't commit to new contracts and bring in new players, because of their uncertain financial futures. However there are a few Clubs whose beniffactors are so well off they will feel they know they will survive whatever and can move on such things with some certainty but in doing so they are doing it at the expense of other those Clubs in the competition. That hardly seems fair to me.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Fact is many of us who have been around all this a long time sort of think that this sort of thing doesn't usually happen unless said player has got somewhere else to go and so I think it will be with jones. In short who would be surprised if he has been tapped up and if he has then we want a big transfer fee. However the fact Clubs are in a financial position to be able to entice players away does for me raise another issue.
For me, although you can't blame players looking to their futures if their contracts are running out, I think that the RL should have put an embargo on any players moving or signing new contracts and frozen the whole situation whilst players are under furlough and until the future of the game and the length of this season was sorted. At present there are a lot of clubs like our own who are struggling to keep going day to day and who therefore daren't commit to new contracts and bring in new players, because of their uncertain financial futures. However there are a few Clubs whose beniffactors are so well off they will feel they know they will survive whatever and can move on such things with some certainty but in doing so they are doing it at the expense of other those Clubs in the competition. That hardly seems fair to me.'"
Now Mr Wilf, you raise another huge question, what are the rules of furlough exactly? IF Mr Jones works for FC then he cannot move on now, otherwise he is "voluntarily relinquishing a paid, furloughed position of employment", IF his agent gets paid then, it is to be hoped, he hasn't furloughed himself previously. Likewise, who from Warrington (for sake of argument.) has signed him, on what basis? Can an entity, with furloughed employees and in receipt of grant loans also pay fees and renumeration to a furloughed individual?
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| Quote ="IR80"Now Mr Wilf, you raise another huge question, what are the rules of furlough exactly? IF Mr Jones works for FC then he cannot move on now, otherwise he is "voluntarily relinquishing a paid, furloughed position of employment", IF his agent gets paid then, it is to be hoped, he hasn't furloughed himself previously. Likewise, who from Warrington (for sake of argument.) has signed him, on what basis? Can an entity, with furloughed employees and in receipt of grant loans also pay fees and renumeration to a furloughed individual?'"
See your point but it wont make any difference to Jones moving on.
Warrington seems to be the club he will go to.
Maybe pave the way for BMM to make an early return to Australia.
Whatever happens we should get a six figure fee,
I just wish we could get a coach into the club.
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| Weve got one in Purtill
The way Pearson spoke of him i honestly thought he was being lined up to replace Radford anyway. I found it odd he seemed to take over the reserves and sounds came out he wasn't as involved in restructuring our attack as made out.
Spoke of highly within the game and one of the most highly qualified , plays an attacking brand of rugby.
Would people be happy with him?
I thought he d be a better choice than Last who i think would continue the millstone that is the club hull mentality
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Weve got one in Purtill
The way Pearson spoke of him i honestly thought he was being lined up to replace Radford anyway. I found it odd he seemed to take over the reserves and sounds came out he wasn't as involved in restructuring our attack as made out.
Spoke of highly within the game and one of the most highly qualified , plays an attacking brand of rugby.
Would people be happy with him?
I thought he d be a better choice than Last who i think would continue the millstone that is the club hull mentality'"
id give Purtill the job til the end of the season (when that will be)...he is the nearest person we have at the club who hasnt been here for a while, hopefully he wont have the same failings as radofrd when picking players......or his mates!
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| The demonisation of Radford continues unabated.
Like I've said previously, let's see how we look back in ten years when the trophy cabinet keys have gone rusty, and are hidden in the corner, third drawer down.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"The demonisation of Radford continues unabated.
Like I've said previously, let's see how we look back in ten years when the trophy cabinet keys have gone rusty, and are hidden in the corner, third drawer down.'"
What we need is the best RL coach in the world, who was born a million miles from Hull, has no friends, doesn't know the meaning of the word loyalty, and will do it all for free.
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| Quote ="ccs"What we need is the best RL coach in the world, who was born a million miles from Hull, has no friends, doesn't know the meaning of the word loyalty, and will do it all for free.'"
No, we need a high quality coach, who wasn't born in Hull, didn't grow up in Hull, picks players on merit, sees loyalty as valuable but not a reason for sentiment when signing/picking players, a coach who doesn't rely on back to back cup wins, amidst some woeful results, to keep their job.
Lee has gone, who knows where we move on to now, when we eventuallt get to move on that is!
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| Quote ="WIZEB"The demonisation of Radford continues unabated.
Like I've said previously, let's see how we look back in ten years when the trophy cabinet keys have gone rusty, and are hidden in the corner, third drawer down.'"
nothing to do with demonisation of radford, ill be forever grateful of those cc wins....hand on heart we all knew he had his favourites who wouldnt be dropped, look back at the majority of our heavy defeats over the last few years, the ones who got the blame were mainly fringe players and dropped the following week, his first choice players never seemed to get dropped if they had a nightmre! also our game plan was becoming stale and predictable and easy for the opposition to nulify, no plan b...fresh ideas needed
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| in your opinion who wheres his favs
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| Quote ="hull2524"in your opinion who wheres his favs'" ... bearing in mind that injuries played a huge part in team selection over the last couple of years.
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| Quote ="ccs"What we need is the best RL coach in the world, who was born a million miles from Hull, has no friends, doesn't know the meaning of the word loyalty, and will do it all for free.'"
damn and blast .... if only 'bonaire' had not been born in Hull, aannnddd (don't quote me) but I did hear (bloody rumours) that he has a friend.
Looks like we need to look for the second best RL coach in the world
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| ..... he'll be lurking on this board somewhere - there must be a dozen contenders on here who know it all.
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| All the Clubs social media outlets wishing “Jonesy” a happy birthday yesterday! He thanked them !
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| Quote ="WIZEB"The demonisation of Radford continues unabated.
Like I've said previously, let's see how we look back in ten years when the trophy cabinet keys have gone rusty, and are hidden in the corner, third drawer down.'"
It hasn’t taken him long to get another job . Bet he can’t wait till the lockdown is lifted fully so he can travel and start his new job in union . I’m sure he’ll be back in super league , soon as he gets a decent offer and not as far from home .
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| Demonisation thats a tad dramatic.
It was time to go as Radford knew, thing is it wouldnt of been time to go without any reasons.
Personally i think the club hull mentality has hindered us recently. Too many home growns not quite good enough to take us to the next level, and too many homegrowns not performing recently possible comfort zone.
Educate me otherwise
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| Quote ="Windy winger"It hasn’t taken him long to get another job . Bet he can’t wait till the lockdown is lifted fully so he can travel and start his new job in union . I’m sure he’ll be back in super league , soon as he gets a decent offer and not as far from home .'"
Job, where? or are you another mate extoling his virtues?
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| We're way off topic now but it was time for Radford to go. Since the start of 2018 our win/loss record was something like 29/37. Not good enough for a club with our (sorry, cliche time) potential.
He had a good run at the job, only Arthur Bunting with a (slightly) longer tenure in the last fifty years. Thanks for 2016/2017 but time to move on.
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| Maybe Club Hull will be a good thing. Imagine fewer overseas players coming back next year across the comp - no vaccine and limited appeal of spending time cooped up in the North of England when you could be in Aus or NZ where it's under control. Clubs here under immense financial pressure and salary cap reduced so players lost to the game. What to leverage in that scenario? A core of players based in Hull with some loyalty and SL experience might not be a bad thing. I'm thinking survival more than silverware but worth thinking about.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"The demonisation of Radford continues unabated.
Like I've said previously, let's see how we look back in ten years when the trophy cabinet keys have gone rusty, and are hidden in the corner, third drawer down.'"
Correct. I said this on here when he got the bullet. Be careful what you wish for. Full credit to the Hull board for wanting to take the club to the next level. By sacking Radford after the CC wins is clearly a sign of intent although i can't comment too much on the rugby you played, only what i saw on the telly. Very Jeckyll and Hyde no doubt. Going in a different direction can take a long time to adapt to though and fans are fickle. Loads of Wigan fans wanted Wane out, its ludicrous when you think about the success he had and now we are having to adapt to a new way of rugby under Lam with little or no defence, completely the polar opposite to Wane. God knows how it will turn out.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Anybody got any anti depressants jesus wept.'"
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Depression amusing? lets all join in and have right good laugh. I'm sure all those who suffer from it will join in.'"
give yer head a bang.
FYI I have sufered from it, and my wife suffers from and has for a long time
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| A little out of left field I know but this thread has been well and truly derailed. Josh Jones was supposed to be doing FC’s Twitter feed Tuesday evening. Did anyone look at it? I rarely do social media, occasionally facebook.
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