Like you matey, last week, they didn’t love him the last time we met.

I got up at 5am excited for the match

Well Fook me

I’ve said over the years he’s not good enough

Not for the size of our club and what we should be achieving such as GF appearances

He’s good enough for a 4 round Cup comp win

Well in fact it was Fonua Ellis and Watts that won the Cup not LR and AL

Anyways feel like I’m wasting my breath as seems AP really doesn’t have the cash to pay him off and hire big

To be honest, holding onto the back to back 4 game knock out wins ( as that's all they are ) What has he brought to the table? is it 5 years now in charge yet as a club have broken more records than Roy Castle. Yep cup wins...Excellent, but what happened yesterday is Yesterdays news. My view is Out of Depth as a top 4 contending club coach.

Here’s another thing
The Giants coach - what will he be saying ?

“ ok ok boys , let’s not getting carried away here, we’ve beaten Hull , yes , BUT , they’re not the scalps we want” “ anyone can beat Hull when they go down “ “ we will need to be much better with other teams “

LR “ Our training is very consistent but once you cross the white line what goes on between your ears is up to you ultimately. I don’t know what I can do about that.”

Who would, if not you ?

I'm still in the Radford in camp, just.

My answer yesterday at 6_30 would have been no,after a nights sleep I am back on the fence.Myself and I would think the majority on here agree that the club have held onto certain players ,extending contracts through loyalty and sentimentality,was a mistake.Some of these players where part of the team that won us the cup twice and I for one will be forever grateful.My question is,from my uncomfortable position on the fence,are we not in danger of doing the same with the coaching staff.

I'd be happy to see him just get some new blood in as help. Keep Radders as head coach but get some new blood in as specialist attack and specialist defence coach.

Won't make the blindest bit of difference imo. Our issues are 100% attitude and effort related. When we want to defend we can defend with the best of them. When we are switched on in attack we can score plenty of points. The problem is that half the time we just can't be bothered, and when we encounter adversity we collapse in a manner that a professional sportsman should be embarrassed by. Ultimately the buck stops with Radford for this, and he clearly doesn't know how to fix it and doesn't even appear to be attempting to. The fact that he is happy to shrug his shoulders and say that's just the team we are is frankly an insult to the fans. That was embarrassing yesterday. Look around the forums at the comments of non Hull supporting fans. We are a laughing stock.

I don't care if we are 4th (hardly anything to brag about anyway let's be honest), I don't even care if we win the cup again. Radford has to go now. I have tried to be fair, but I've seen enough now.

There comes a time with any coach, even a good one, when he has done all he can do.

Players and coaches get used to each other and players drop into a "comfort zone"

Nothing against Radford, he was a good honest player and the same as a coach but it's time for a change

Same here.

We've had two of the greatest days in the club's history during Radford's tenure but the inconsistency is alarming as is the number of hammerings.

2017
18-58 at home to Salford
24-52 at home to Leeds
0-45 at Magic to Saints

2018
10-72 at Wakefield
10-80 at Warrington

2019
12-63 at home to Warrington
16-62 at Saints
2-55 at Magic to Huddersfield

We've shipped 50+ five times in under a year - actually five times in twenty-five games.

Worth pointing out too that Radford is our longest serving coach since Arthur Bunting and only Bunting has had a longer spell as Hull coach in the last fifty years.

Id argue that the hammerings do more harm than the victories like Warrington last week do good. The attending fan base cant be happy not knowing which FC is gonna turn up and some will and are already thinking well the team cant be d so why should i.

But Pearson will give Radford next year (or part of) with his new team but you can pretty much guarantee that we will still have hammerings and be in the same position because weve been getting hammered throughout Radfords tenure whatever team has played

Whatever happens we definitely need some new blood in the coaching team. last has been on the coaching staff since the mcrae days and radford must have been back around the club for well over a decade. Time for some fresh inout and ideas

I like Lasty but he's been a the club an age. I think he's done some assistant coaching at lower international level but it's telling that he's never either fancied a shot as head coach in the lower leagues nor has he (as far as I'm aware) been offered such a position.

I'm not blaming him for our failings but as has been said a change of ideas and fresh blood in the coaching team is overdue.

Personally I think it’s a weak argument if a coach states they need to sign their own players , especially if it’s across the entire team. I wouldn’t expect miracles over night, but an experienced, quality coach should be able to mould a team unit including players who have represented their country.

It's a total fallacy that a coach needs "his own team"

No coach ever gets a job with his chosen set of players.

Did Trent Robinson arrive at Roosters with his own team? Wayne Bennet at Souths this year?


A good coach gets the best out of the individuals he's given and devises a game plan to suit that group of individuals.


Good coaches usually make a positive impact quite quickly even if they've not chosen hardly any of the players personally.

He still has JUST enough credit in the bank to keep his job. He built one trophy winning team let him have the chance to build another.

Despite the hammerings we are 4th. The table doesn't lie It's not down to luck. It's decided on points won not points difference. If we stay in a play off place that would be satisfactory and have exceeded most peoples prediction at the start of the season. If we continue to get embarrassed and slide down the table then he'll have to go.

It's no coincidence that most of these pathetic performances this season and last happen when Ellis isn't playing. It's embarrassing when you're relying on a 39 year old who had to come out of retirement but that's how it is. I'd love to see a win/loss ratio over the years when he plays and not. We desperately need leaders and hopefully the new signings are made of that material.

How many half centuries in total has Radford conceded ? Betts was notorious for it at Widnes but Radford must be running him close now.

I think Radford has a few more plus points than Betts.

It's not that we lose, it's the way we lose. Our last 4 defeats have been absolute hammerings. We don't seem to have "the stuff" that top teams have when things go wrong. We just go into a hole and give up completely.

Yes, Radford can get them up for it occasionally. We do pull off the off big scalp. Yes, it was great the we finally won at Wembley (and twice). Yes, the record win against Rovers was very sweet. Yes, being one game off winning the league leaders shield was special.

But look at the downs: All time club record defeat, all time club record home defeat, joint all time club record losing streak, biggest defeat in the history off Magic Weekend.
These are not acceptable, yet they've happened so often.

I think this will be Radford's last season. I don't think they'll sack him, but I think they won't renew his contract.

I don't really understand what a lot of Hull fans expect. As a collective we seem to mentally position ourselves up with the likes of Wigan and Saints when the reality is if you look at the results over the past 20-25 years the club's peers are really the likes of Castleford and Catalans, which is where we are now.
I'd also rather have the sporadic hammerings above than spreading these points conceded over a wider series of games. We'd be serious relegation candidates of that happened.

I'll be amazed if Radford isn't here this year, the way Pearson speaks about him and backing him by to change the squad. Unless we have a finish to the season similar to last year I think he will still be here.

Thursday's game is massive.

Radford going nowhere so it's a pointless discussion.

I agree with Jake, he'll stay! However, 12 games in which we conceded 30 points between Magic weekends, does however smack to a lot of people of a group of players who are 'picking their matches' and its the fact that once we are two or three tries behind we as fans are all resigned to the fact that we will lose and its just then a question then of by how many.

Id like to see Radford moved on , A poster said a month back " the club has gone stale and a need to freshen it all aspects of the club up " . Here we are again , discussing another hammering .