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| Quote ="pmarrow"I understand people thinking we will lose im not confident myself but I don't think we will get hammered. Rovers defensively are not brilliant and not brilliant in attack either. They had there fair share of losing runs and if we were in middle 8s last season I would edge my bets we wouldn't have gone 11 games on the bounce losing.
They have the edge because they are fully fit and nothing more IMO.'"
Fully fit? That statement alone means you views should be ignored. I can understand fans having different opinions but getting facts wrong is something else.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"You have 5 out injured and we have 4, Lunt, Quinlan (two of our best) Jewitt and Scruton. So certainly not fully fit at all but dont let that get in the way of your injury list.'"
TBH I never realised you had that many out but I would say in terms of injuries you are better off.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Fully fit? That statement alone means you views should be ignored. I can understand fans having different opinions but getting facts wrong is something else.'"
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| Quote ="pmarrow"TBH I never realised you had that many out but I would say in terms of injuries you are better off.'"
Could be because we don’t have so much invested in our first 17.
I’d be interested if you have a different explanation.
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| Quote ="Rubyred1"Fully fit? How do work that out? Our Hooker and Fullback ( rated better than yours by many ) are injured plus we have two big aggressive Props missing so Hardly fully fit.'"
Rated better by who? Wouldn’t take Lunt or Quinlan if I’m being honest.
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| How many away games have we won in SL in the last 18 months or so?
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| Quote ="Primary_james"Rated better by who? Wouldn’t take Lunt or Quinlan if I’m being honest.'"
Have you compared fullback stats for 2018?
When fit Lunt leaves Houghten in the shade.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Have you compared fullback stats?
When fit Lunt leaves Houghten in the shade.'"
Can’t say I really have time to do so. But, as you say ‘when fit’. Danny Houghton is rarely injured for long periods and is an absolute machine. Would I rather have Danny Houghton or an injury prone, plays sporadically hooker from across the river, Id always pick Danny. Also tackle 52
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| Quote ="Primary_james"Can’t say I really have time to do so. But, as you say ‘when fit’. Danny Houghton is rarely injured for long periods and is an absolute machine. Would I rather have Danny Houghton or an injury prone, plays sporadically hooker from across the river, Id always pick Danny. Also tackle 52
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Seriously do we have to descend into this farce? My father's bigger than yours, it's a joke and ruins debate.
Can't you just accept both teams have key personnel out thus making it a level playing field and to be fair Houghton was far from his best last season.
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| Quote ="Primary_james"Can’t say I really have time to do so. But, as you say ‘when fit’. Danny Houghton is rarely injured for long periods and is an absolute machine. Would I rather have Danny Houghton or an injury prone, plays sporadically hooker from across the river, Id always pick Danny. Also tackle 52
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Lunt has hardly been injury prone in his career. His illness could have affected anyone, he has been very unlucky.
You are correct about Houghton though, he is a machine. In the modern game the hooker is one of the pivots and you look for far more than topping the tackle count. Flair and creativity are needed, attributes Houghton seems to lack. Probably as he is knackered being a machine every week.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"Seriously do we have to descend into this farce? My father's bigger than yours, it's a joke and ruins debate.
Can't you just accept both teams have key personnel out thus making it a level playing field and to be fair Houghton was far from his best last season.
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Well it wasn’t actually me who started the ‘farce’. And I’m simply saying I wouldn’t have those players from Rovers...
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| Quote ="Primary_james"Well it wasn’t actually me who started the ‘farce’. And I’m simply saying I wouldn’t have those players from Rovers...'"
Indeed,Lunt over Houghton... seriously!
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Lunt has hardly been injury prone in his career. His illness could have affected anyone, he has been very unlucky.
You are correct about Houghton though, he is a machine. In the modern game the hooker is one of the pivots and you look for far more than topping the tackle count. Flair and creativity are needed, attributes Houghton seems to lack. Probably as he is knackered being a machine every week.'"
This season with the reduction in the number of interchanges it will be interesting to see how teams that regularly spelled the hookers will fair. We know what we get with Danny Houghton he can do 80mins and are usually a better side with him in it. Last season he was pretty much below his previous and usual standard but then no body else was that great either for various reasons.
At times his distribution is poor and laboured but is that all down to Houghton alone, or more to do with the way Radford sets the team to play. Our attacking deficiencies aren't down to Danny Houghton it's down to whats seems like a lack of attacking structure and options in Radfords game plans or if we do have that then we have a group of players that are incapable or carrying any of it out.
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| I think it will be a narrow defeat, they have the edge at halfback if Connor is out, previous seasons our pack would have got us home, but we are weaker whilst Rovers are stronger.
Personally if Connor is out id go with Scott and Griffin, if he is available Griffin and Miloudi.
I don't think the result is a forgone conclusion like some Rovers fans think and I don't think, but we will need to show some real fight and take our chances which we failed to do so many times last year.
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| Quote ="Chris71"This season with the reduction in the number of interchanges it will be interesting to see how teams that regularly spelled the hookers will fair. We know what we get with Danny Houghton he can do 80mins and are usually a better side with him in it. Last season he was pretty much below his previous and usual standard but then no body else was that great either for various reasons.
At times his distribution is poor and laboured but is that all down to Houghton alone, or more to do with the way Radford sets the team to play. Our attacking deficiencies aren't down to Danny Houghton it's down to whats seems like a lack of attacking structure and options in Radfords game plans or if we do have that then we have a group of players that are incapable or carrying any of it out.'"
So other than being able to play for 80 minutes he's has not really anything going for him.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"So other than being able to play for 80 minutes he's has not really anything going for him.'"
Tackle 53, why don't you go on your own board and discuss your own team (just an idea, may be a bit outlandish)
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"Tackle 53, why don't you go on your own board and discuss your own team (just an idea, may be a bit outlandish)'"
Play nicely.
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| I might be on my own on this but Lunt is starting to become a liability he seems to be injured all the time now as for houghton I think been flogged to death for 10 years is starting to show
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| Connor plays we win, he doesn’t we lose.
We need to get away from the middle and get the ball to Los and Griffin who up against Vaivai and Keinhorst would really fancy their chances.
If Connor doesn’t play it’ll be interesting to see who plays 6, I’m hearing it’s Washbrook.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"So other than being able to play for 80 minutes he's has not really anything going for him.'"
Try again!!! I said (as a hull fan) we know what we get from Danny Houghton so don't feel the need to explain it to you as its no concern of yours being a rovers troll sorry I meant fan. We also have a player who we know can play 80mins which as I said will be interesting to see how teams fair this season that regularly spelled their hookers.
Lunt is a decent player but I wouldn't have him in over Houghton.
I agree with FTF that flogging him for 80mins for the past decade may now be taking its toll and last season wasn't a great one by his standards. However as I said he wasn't the only below par last season and this season its for all those players to prove the doubters wrong and make amends for last season.
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"Connor plays we win, he doesn’t we lose.
We need to get away from the middle and get the ball to Los and Griffin who up against Vaivai and Keinhorst would really fancy their chances.
If Connor doesn’t play it’ll be interesting to see who plays 6, I’m hearing it’s Washbrook.'"
If Connor doesn't play then I hope its not Washy at 6 as we will be just too static and slow, I'd like to see Miloudi given the chance at 6 as he has a bit of pace and bit of 'maverick' in his ability and would give us much more of an attacking threat than Washy.
Yes Washy would be a dependable and reliable option but would make us even more one dimensional than we already are and it would be far too easy for Rovers to defend against us as I'm afraid we will offer very little threat in the halfs.
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| Quote ="Chris71"If Connor doesn't play then I hope its not Washy at 6 as we will be just too static and slow, I'd like to see Miloudi given the chance at 6 as he has a bit of pace and bit of 'maverick' in his ability and would give us much more of an attacking threat than Washy.
Yes Washy would be a dependable and reliable option but would make us even more one dimensional than we already are and it would be far too easy for Rovers to defend against us as I'm afraid we will offer very little threat in the halfs.'"
100% agree. Miloudi at 6 with Dawson-Jones on the wing.
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| Quote ="Primary_james"Well it wasn’t actually me who started the ‘farce’. And I’m simply saying I wouldn’t have those players from Rovers...'"
Your quite right! You didnt start it, It was a fellow fan of yours stating we where at full strength.
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| WOW we really are going backwards in coaching standards if predicted we have Washbrook at half back and Dawson on the wing.
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| Hull FC have registered club legend Kirk Yeaman as a member of the first-team playing squad [size=50ahead of Sunday’s Dacia Magic Weekend clash[/size against Hull KR.
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