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| Quote ="barham red"I actually think Leigh have improved more defensively than offensively since Cooke went there, they could always score but struggled once they got into a scrap, one thing they don't lack is a bit of mongrel thats for sure.
Warrington remind me of Hull from a few years ago, seemingly pass the balll side to side then send a big lad up the middle, Gidley has gone from being missed so much that (IMO) him going off was key to you winning the cup, to being the biggest liability out there. Can't see you struggling to defend against them next week especially as Lineham will be banned for at least 2.'"
Couldn't agree more with you on this point particularly. Watching Warrington lately is like watching Hull FC from when Agar was the Coach, looks like his dynamic coaching is now taking affect at Wire, totally devoid of ideas and look beat before the games even got going.
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| Quote ="barham red"I actually think Leigh have improved more defensively than offensively since Cooke went there, they could always score but struggled once they got into a scrap, one thing they don't lack is a bit of mongrel thats for sure.
Warrington remind me of Hull from a few years ago, seemingly pass the balll side to side then send a big lad up the middle, Gidley has gone from being missed so much that (IMO) him going off was key to you winning the cup, to being the biggest liability out there. Can't see you struggling to defend against them next week especially as Lineham will be banned for at least 2.'"
Good post, I didn't think Leigh Attach was very good, they played to their strenghts, strong forwards and good defence, I suppose a bit like us, but not as good
Agree with your post on Warrington and I mentioned it on the VT, they look like a Agar coached team, wonder if he is having more influence at training etc this season?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Good post, I didn't think Leigh Attach was very good, they played to their strenghts, strong forwards and good defence, I suppose a bit like us, but not as good
Agree with your post on Warrington and I mentioned it on the VT, they look like a Agar coached team, wonder if he is having more influence at training etc this season?'"
Apparently he now takes the day to day training duties.
Whilst Leigh played to their strengths I thought there attack was well structured in the way they used certain players and targetted areas Hocks 2nd try an example of them setting up the play for hock targeting the left edge of Warringtons defence.
Don't think Leigh really had their defence tested as Warrington's attack was just like us under Agar, predicatable and easy to defend against as no real threat from anywhere.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Apparently he now takes the day to day training duties.
Whilst Leigh played to their strengths I thought there attack was well structured in the way they used certain players and targetted areas Hocks 2nd try an example of them setting up the play for hock targeting the left edge of Warringtons defence.
Don't think Leigh really had their defence tested as Warrington's attack was just like us under Agar, predicatable and easy to defend against as no real threat from anywhere.'"
Its odd really how someone like Agar can be so well regarded whilst having delivered nothing of note during his career, his tenure at Hull if even just based on results was rubbish and was only bolstered by a CC final appearance. He was awful at Wakey (in difficult circumstances) and seems to have landed a plum role at wire and that seems to be not too well received by the fan base. Are there so few coaches to choose from that as long as you have a role you'll get another
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| Quote ="barham red"Its odd really how someone like Agar can be so well regarded whilst having delivered nothing of note during his career, his tenure at Hull if even just based on results was rubbish and was only bolstered by a CC final appearance. He was awful at Wakey (in difficult circumstances) and seems to have landed a plum role at wire and that seems to be not too well received by the fan base. Are there so few coaches to choose from that as long as you have a role you'll get another'"
Maybe it was his record when coaching the French national side................ oh hang on wait a minute.......... errrrm nope not that successful there either.
I agree for someone that is/was regarded well within the game his record of any kind of success is bloody awful and I was astounded by his appointment at Warrington.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Maybe it was his record when coaching the French national side................ oh hang on wait a minute.......... errrrm nope not that successful there either.
I agree for someone that is/was regarded well within the game his record of any kind of success is bloody awful and I was DELIGHTED by his appointment at Warrington.'"
Amended for accuracy. HTH
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injuries or not, i still think widnes are the weakest team in the comp
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injuries or not, i still think widnes are the weakest team in the comp
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| Quote ="number 6"injuries or not, i still think widnes are the weakest team in the comp'"
Undoubtedly, but they may get back to full strength and are seeking to bring more players in. They'll be bottom 4 regardless you'd have thought.
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I really don't like him or certainly wouldn't trust him.
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I really don't like him or certainly wouldn't trust him.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I really don't like him or certainly wouldn't trust him.'"
Looks like Rovers will replace them anyway, but having said that I thought they did OK in the first half of our game. I don't mind Betts but I think Rod Studd said yesterday it's 607 days since Widnes won a SL game without Kevin Brown.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Looks like Rovers will replace them anyway, but having said that I thought they did OK in the first half of our game. I don't mind Betts but I think Rod Studd said yesterday it's 607 days since Widnes won a SL game without Kevin Brown.'"
I think Widnes will do a Wakey from 2 years ago, except they are in the middle 8's and spend big just before they start (although I expect Rovers do the same)
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| Castleford really turning on the style to maintain top spot after being 0-14 early on.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Castleford really turning on the style to maintain top spot after being 0-14 early on.'"
I still can't believe we lost to catalans. They may even miss out on the 8 this year
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I still can't believe we lost to catalans. [uThey may even miss out on the 8 this year[/u'"
Was just looking at the table and thinking that. Would be a tough place to go in the Middle 8s given their roster, they'll be right when Bird's back though IMO - in the end he did for us in that game.
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