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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I'll be honest, if I was a young kid playing rugby in Hull I'd now rather go to West Yorkshire if possible. You'll be the experimental years for an unclear operation, be unsure which first team you're being lined up for, and you won't even get to pull on the black/red & white shirt at the weekend. Might as well go elsewhere and if you make it look for a move later in your career if you really want to play for your team.'"
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| Quote ="*1865*"Quite simply, our owner doesn't want to spend the money maintaining it.'"
Pearson is siriusly fkn clueless.
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| Asked on Twitter, but how many of the U19s have played first team this year, and how many debuts?
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Exactly. Like I said, the Foundation team, which kind of flows into the academy, will be next.
Other than saving a few quid, I'm struggling to see any benefits here.
=#0000FFPlus, the academy lads are losing two intense fixtures out of their calendar. A fixture which goes back years.'"
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| Quote ="Chris28"Asked on Twitter, but how many of the U19s have played first team this year, and how many debuts?'"
Abdul, Logan, Lancaster and Turgut, the last one was his debut.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Abdul, Logan, Lancaster and Turgut, the last one was his debut.'"
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| This is so hard to comprehend. I'm totally disgusted that we have even contemplated this, never mind gone with it.
Playing in blue and gold?! Sharing our training ground?
Supporting Hull FC isn't about saving money, or pooling resources. It's about what's best for this great club and maintaining our great history and tradition. I just don't believe merging with 'them' at any level is what we should ever be doing.
This news actually puts our recent poor results into perspective. For me this is worse news than any result...
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| Bobby Tyson-Wilson made his debut this year didn't he?
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| Quote ="*1865*"Quote ="Sit down, Waldo"Didn't you get approval to be an Elite Academy on your own? What happened to that?'" <br abp="1043">Quite simply, our owner doesn't want to spend the money maintaining it.'"
That's a worrying answer. There's not enough coming through so something needs fixing up, not sure this is it though. I'd rather they put a merged effort into developing the kids at 13/14 to create a better quality pool to select from.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Abdul, Logan, Lancaster and Turgut, the last one was his debut.'"
It's a good job we don't have an Australian coach.
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| Is this in-part a tactic to ensure young players are kept on really low wages? Surely both clubs would have to agree on the players contract terms prior to any draft, to ensure both are paying the same? Would this be detrimental to the better ones?
I'm really fkd off about this. Our whole youth setup is merging with the enemy. Is this some kind of sick joke
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| IF we were to pool resources between the clubs, it should be at grassroots level to create a larger player pool for both clubs to draw from.
This method is decreasing the player pool, saving a few quid and quietly hoping the great amateur clubs in Hull can do the hard work for them.
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| We're in a spiral of doom
You can't cost cut your way out of a crisis.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"We're in a spiral of doom
You can't cost cut your way out of a crisis.'"
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| This could be the straw that broke the camels back for me.
I can just about put up with watching a bad side with a bad coach, I take that as being part of sport and Hull FC, but compromising the identity and soul of the club like this makes me think "what's the point".
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| Quote ="Soul Boy"Bobby Tyson-Wilson made his debut this year didn't he?'"
Yes.
In numbers, we've had 2 debuts this year, and 13 SL appearances across 5 players. 8 of those are Abdull, so the other 4 lads have had 5 appearances between them.
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| Can I cry now. What a s.hits past few weeks
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Correct, Smallie.'"
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"IF we were to pool resources between the clubs, it should be at grassroots level to create a larger player pool for both clubs to draw from.
This method is decreasing the player pool, saving a few quid and quietly hoping the great amateur clubs in Hull can do the hard work for them.'"
Spot on. At lower ages I can see the benefits, at full-blown academy level it just seems like a disaster about to unfold.
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| Just need to get Washbrook and Yeaman signed for next year to top off a great week.
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| From a red and white perspective, I can't honestly see how it will all work. I know there is a planned draft system, but if all the players are pooled, there will be 50% less to choose from and although they will be the 'elite', will either club be any better off and will any late developers get totally missed by both teams? The fact that FC 19's in particular have had a cracking season just makes the decision the more strange.
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| Well that's made me feel a whole lot better after last night hasn't it you? Sorry to go on but this is bad news indeed.
If they were announcing that A teams were back then perhaps we could have handled it a bit better and tried to understand it but the thought, after almost 60 years, of not being able to see our kids pull on the famous black and white and the fact at junior level we are now to be deprived of the chance to go and see and be proud of our youngsters as they wear the most famous strip in the game and pit their wits against the other Clubs juniors is sad. However what's worse is that instead to stand with Rovers fans and cheer the same side who are in fact playing in Leeds colours is hard to take. Where will they be playing Craven Park?
The trouble is some people at our Club simply don't get it. They don't realise how it feels to be humiliated on the terraces as we were last night, how it feels to go from a Club playing in one of the most famous stadiums in the world to being second class citizens and tenants of a football Club who want to close half the Stadium when we play and then to loosing completely our identity below first team level and having to cheer on a team that is 50% Rovers so that we are in effect getting into bed with the mortal enemy. It is certainly the thin edge of the wedge and will be a deal breaker for a lot of the older end of the fan base.
Its hard to love your Club sometimes and where it a marriage it would be said that the whole thing is getting now to a position of irretrievable break down we have no proper home, no A team anymore and now we have no juniors playing in our famous strip on which we can pin our hopes because they may never be ours and we will have we have to wait for a draft!!!!! We were the best academy in all this we were the shining lights in the RL world, and an example of good practise Rovers were trailing behind, couldn't afford to catch up so instead they merge with us. We've been had again and it looks to me as if we are blinded by the prospect of saving money. Sorry about the rant!
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| Twitter is on fire, former and current players speaking out against it. Apparently staff still not been told how they'll be "restructured". It all just smack of Pearson trimming down the expenses before he sells up.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Just need to get Washbrook and Yeaman signed for next year to top off a great week.'"
and 5 year new contract for Radford.......
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Well that's made me feel a whole lot better after last night hasn't it you? Sorry to go on but this is bad news indeed.
If they were announcing that A teams were back then perhaps we could have handled it a bit better and tried to understand it but the thought, after almost 60 years, of not being able to see our kids pull on the famous black and white and the fact at junior level we are now to be deprived of the chance to go and see and be proud of our youngsters as they wear the most famous strip in the game and pit their wits against the other Clubs juniors is sad. However what's worse is that instead to stand with Rovers fans and cheer the same side who are in fact playing in Leeds colours is hard to take. Where will they be playing Craven Park?
The trouble is some people at our Club simply don't get it. They don't realise how it feels to be humiliated on the terraces as we were last night, how it feels to go from a Club playing in one of the most famous stadiums in the world to being second class citizens and tenants of a football Club who want to close half the Stadium when we play and then to loosing completely our identity below first team level and having to cheer on a team that is 50% Rovers so that we are in effect getting into bed with the mortal enemy. It is certainly the thin edge of the wedge and will be a deal breaker for a lot of the older end of the fan base.
Its hard to love your Club sometimes and where it a marriage it would be said that the whole thing is getting now to a position of irretrievable break down we have no proper home, no A team anymore and now we have no juniors playing in our famous strip on which we can pin our hopes because they may never be ours and we will have we have to wait for a draft!!!!! We were the best academy in all this we were the shining lights in the RL world, and an example of good practise Rovers were trailing behind, couldn't afford to catch up so instead they merge with us. We've been had again and it looks to me as if we are blinded by the prospect of saving money. Sorry about the rant!'"
Excellent summary Wilf. The club is starting to really off people like me and that is a danger for them as I have a balanced view on all matters and contribute a huge amount of time and money (as do many, many others). I'm really starting to wonder why I bother.
The only draft (sic) Pearson will be experiencing soon is the one caused by all the exit doors closing as we all leave the building for good.
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