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| Quote ="ccs"And the RFL fight back.....'"
"Transparency, consistency and fairness"
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| Quote ="ccs"And the RFL fight back.....'"
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| [url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/9233092/jon-sharp-defends-steve-ganson-over-dressing-room-actionsHere's some more closing of ranks on the issue at Wakey.[/url
I'm afraid the game is up to a great degree and nothing that the RFL hit back with will change the minds of the majority of clubs and fans alike.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"[url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/9233092/jon-sharp-defends-steve-ganson-over-dressing-room-actionsHere's some more closing of ranks on the issue at Wakey.[/url
I'm afraid the game is up to a great degree and nothing that the RFL hit back with will change the minds of the majority of clubs and fans alike.'"
Totally agree. It's scandalous that they think a statement like that which actually doesn't say anything will placate fans and clubs. They really must think we are stupid.
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| Nothing in that brief RFL statement that addresses any of the concerns raised by Neil's own statement...
However, it does highlight a combination of complacency and self-satisfaction...
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| Quote ="FLAG EDGE TOUCH"Nothing in that brief RFL statement that addresses any of the concerns raised by Neil's own statement...
However, it does highlight a combination of complacency and self-satisfaction...'"
A typical RFL statement then
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| According to the RFL statement "players are more accountable for their actions than ever before".
However referees and RFL officials aren't accountable to anyone.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"However referees and RFL officials aren't accountable to anyone.'"
And therein lies the root of the problem.
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I'm afraid the game is up to a great degree and nothing that the RFL hit back with will change the minds of the majority of clubs and fans alike.'"
More b*llox from the RFL...
"But there is plenty of discussion to be had about how the first half has gone and rightly so. You want to encourage dialogue between the referee and his touch judges and, when you have someone of Steve's experience and knowledge at the game in an official capacity, I think he has every right to go into that dressing room."
What about the other games played in this round? It's seems a rather 'hit & miss' policy...
"There is absolutely no point in having the referees coach in the ground sat there for 80 minutes with no presence about the dressing room area. It's nothing new, I'm a little bit surprised it's hit the headlines."
Again, it's just a matter of fortune (good or bad) that the referees coach is at a particular game...
"What he's said is irrelevant. It was a real ambiguous statement to say the game changed in the second half. We are talking about a fantastic St Helens team who were just behind on scoreboard."
Had Mr Ganson NOT visited the referee at HT there wouldn't have been any kind of ambiguity would there Jon?
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| Quote ="FLAG EDGE TOUCH"More b*llox from the RFL...
"[uBut there is plenty of discussion to be had about how the first half has gone and rightly so. You want to encourage dialogue between the referee and his touch judges and, when you have someone of Steve's experience and knowledge at the game in an official capacity, I think he has every right to go into that dressing room."
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What about the other games played in this round? It's seems a rather 'hit & miss' policy...
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[/uAgain, it's just a matter of fortune (good or bad) that the referees coach is at a particular game...
"What he's said is irrelevant. It was a real ambiguous statement to say the game changed in the second half. We are talking about a fantastic St Helens team who were just behind on scoreboard."
Had Mr Ganson NOT visited the referee at HT there wouldn't have been any kind of ambiguity would there Jon?'"
That first bit makes no sense at all, unless Ganson went into the dressing room to say "Ref, speak to your touch judges. Touch judges, speak to the ref" and then left.
On the second bit, why has he gone to the ground at all? If it's an official monitoring visit, just say so.
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| Quote ="FLAG EDGE TOUCH"Had Mr Ganson NOT visited the referee at HT there wouldn't have been any kind of ambiguity would there Jon?'"
Well said. For me, the time and place to scrutinise a refs performance is after the match, not during it.
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| I say its time the fans petition the RFL to change the review system as it clearly the absolute opposite of everything their statement suggests.
Or we could just storm Red Hall with pitchforks an flaming torches.
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| Quote ="major black"I say its time the fans petition the RFL to change the review system as it clearly the absolute opposite of everything their statement suggests.
Or we could just storm Red Hall with pitchforks an flaming torches.'"
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| Quote ="Chris28"Second one sounds more fun'"
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I'm afraid the game is up to a great degree and nothing that the RFL hit back with will change the minds of the majority of clubs and fans alike.'"
I had seen and heard about this over the weekend and Monday but was hoping Agar had just got his wires crossed, obviously not! That man should have been kicked out of the game many years ago(not Agar by the way lol)! The judiciary to match officials needs a complete overhaul but I wouldn't have a clue where to start, it's a complete shambles. A good start would be the dropping of Ganson from a great height.
I stopped attending away games last year due to the whole system!
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| How could they not decide who to ban on the Whiting tackle anyway? The Widnes number 16 clearly places his hands between Whiting's legs and tips him over into a vertical position. It looks quite clear cut to me.
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They seem to have the right idea.
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| .................It took 3 pages before I realised it was a joke
Quote ON REPORT: @gazellis12 (Hull FC) - Running at a 45° angle without due care and attention. 2 Match Ban and ordered to buy a compass'"
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| I am in complete agreement with all I have seen today including Hudgell but is it not time for some of these Thick Headed players to stop some of the daft things they are doing. Before the game starts the players should perhaps say to refs right we will not go in 3rd man as long as you shout held quicker. The shoulder charge is outlawed - don't do it. And by the way get everybody (both teams) on side so that the game can be played properly. Remember Refs we introduced sin binning many years ago - start using it we the fans wont mind.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"How could they not decide who to ban on the Whiting tackle anyway? The Widnes number 16 clearly places his hands between Whiting's legs and tips him over into a vertical position. It looks quite clear cut to me.'"
For me Johnson (10) should have been charged, he could see the leg being lifted by 16 yet he executes the throw.
Poore does lift the legs with hand inside, but 3 games for that is ridiculous
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| can anybody tell me how blake solly and his muppets get to be in charge of rugby league,are they voted on?if so, by whom?????
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| Quote ="FLAG EDGE TOUCH"More b*llox from the RFL...
"But there is plenty of discussion to be had about how the first half has gone and rightly so. You want to encourage dialogue between the referee and his touch judges and, when you have someone of Steve's experience and knowledge at the game in an official capacity, I think he has every right to go into that dressing room."
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"There is absolutely no point in having the referees coach in the ground sat there for 80 minutes with no presence about the dressing room area. It's nothing new, I'm a little bit surprised it's hit the headlines."
Again, it's just a matter of fortune (good or bad) that the referees coach is at a particular game...
"What he's said is irrelevant. It was a real ambiguous statement to say the game changed in the second half. We are talking about a fantastic St Helens team who were just behind on scoreboard."
Had Mr Ganson NOT visited the referee at HT there wouldn't have been any kind of ambiguity would there Jon?'"
And yet when there are a couple of referees sat in the video box watching punches , high tackles , players being stood on etc the RFL say that they are not allowed to intervene because it's up to the on field referee and it wouldn't be fair as video refs aren't at every game. I know SG think's he's omniscient but the RFL should be ensuring that as he isn't and can't be at every game he butt's out until he does his weekly review. Inconsistency at every bl00dy level!!
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I had seen and heard about this over the weekend and Monday but was hoping Agar had just got his wires crossed, obviously not! That man should have been kicked out of the game many years ago(not Agar by the way lol)! The judiciary to match officials needs a complete overhaul but I wouldn't have a clue where to start, it's a complete shambles. A good start would be the dropping of Ganson from a great height.
I stopped attending away games last year due to the whole system!'" I loved the line 'What he's said is irrelevant.'
Erm sorry Jon but it isn't at all.
It's these kind of actions and comments that make it look like a secret society.
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| We can complain as much as we want, but the RFL will not take a blind bit of notice, the game at the highest level will eventually slide back to where it was pre- Super League.
The only way to turn this around before we get to such a perilous state, is for all fans of all clubs to take a hard position on this to force a change, the first stage would be to boycott the Magic weekend. This would not significantly affect our clubs, but it would send out one hell of a signal to the incompetents at the RFL, one they couldn't ignore.
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