if you haven't seen Johnson then you are basically just guessing about how good he is,why don't people just trust the coaching squad on who THEY believe to be right for us

I wonder if developments at CP mean Taylor is heading our way sooner rather than later?

Can you read?

He's a good player, great footwork and still only young.

Yes, you agreed with Dave K that although you,ve not seen much of Johnson we would be better off with a prop with more impact.I reckon our coaching staff have watched him a lot more than you

Ogre, Lynch, Watts and Taylor woud be better mind.

Johnson is signed and I can't see Taylor coming this year. Keeping Ogre could happen depends on negotiations with Amor.

You were right the second time - just like I said.

If he signs (and it's only a rumour by the way) then we'll all get to see. That won't prevent me holding an opinion in the meantime believe me. If we keep O Meley (unlikely) that would mitigate.

Fact is Amor and Johnson are a massive downgrade on Moa and O Meley.

gree currently but the fact is the club are building for the future and both are much younger than omeley so would be my choice although i put my hands up and say omeley has come back strong but still looks overweight, anyway i think we do need young blood coming in and its nice to see were building for a future and not quick fixing any more

I've heard amor has turned us down .

Linked with Saints.

So are Smith and Green are at Wigan as halves. It's about what is available and taking young players and improving them. There are no quick fixes and PG and AP have stated this.

Green has showed up very well and is worth a spot. Think the Bowden deal was a bit rushed to be honest, think the club were trying to put down a marker regarding rewarding our younger players, reminds me of Liam Higgins if I'm honest.

If Ogre defo going, need a big rough prop.

If we go into 2013 with our props as Lynch, Watts, Johnson, Amor/Green and back row of Ellis/Tickle/Westerman/Galea i still think we need a Manu/Moa style for each position. I cant see where the impact is with any of those coming on off the bench.

Don't get the questioning of Josh Bowden been signed up? He's 18/19 ffs and looks hell of alot better than Higgins! That's an insult to Josh imo. Bowden will become a very good prop in a few years and that is why he has been rewarded with a new contract.

Same here. Been impressed with the lad so far

Yep, looks a cracking prospect, very few 18/19 yr olds play prop at this level they generally don't peak until they are well into their 20s so the lad has done very very well.

Bowden will be good but I think a few people are forgetting about Chris Green who is currently keeping Bowden out of the side!

Bowden has been injured don't forget plus Green has been playing well so no need to drop him and rush Bowden is there. Bowden's time will come.

It's great to have Bowden, Green, Kent, Lineham, Nicko (although I don't rate him) all on the verge of first team with games under their belt.

This is great news he is one of my favourite players at the club. I remember when we first signed him and he played his first few games and people in front of me in the south stand saying he is overated and is crap dont know why we bought him, which is egg on their face now.

Heard it was Cas

And crooksy actually being in the first team regularly for a pretty big chunk of the season!