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| Quote ="chesterwednesday"All of Bradfords victories will count as defeats , so all who lost to bradford will be awarded two points.
All of bradfords remaining opponents will be given a two point bye.'"
You realise that has the same net result as just expunging their results, right? And still doesn't solve the Leeds problem.
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| Re: Fixtures, there's no good option really, if Bradford can't fulfill theirs.
Voiding all Bradford's games would be the obvious one, if it weren't for the Magic round. Binning off that whole round and turning it retrospectively into an exhibition would make it an embarrassment and kill it very dead.
Least bad IMO would be a to count all Bradford's games past and future as 1-0 wins for their opponents. Slight advantage to Leeds, but they won the magic game anyway.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Least bad IMO would be a to count all Bradford's games past and future as 1-0 wins for their opponents. Slight advantage to Leeds, but they won the millenium game anyway.'"
If you award everyone 2 points for the Bulls games it has the same net effect as awarding everyone 0 points, apart from points difference changes. I'm not sure there's a significant difference.
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| Quote ="Kosh"If you award everyone 2 points for the Bulls games it has the same net effect as awarding everyone 0 points, apart from points difference changes. I'm not sure there's a significant difference.'"
It's a cosmetic difference. The best way to cut a poop pie, IMO.
Leeds having played 24 when everybody else has played 25 just looks odd.
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| Does it work out any fairer if all there remaining games were given as a 1 point draw?
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| Quote ="Isaiah"Does it work out any fairer if all there remaining games were given as a 1 point draw?'"
I thought about that, and given that they're a mid-table team it's not a bad idea.
Bradford can't have the other point though - that'd probably be enough for them to reach the play-offs!
Anyway, hopefully it won't come to that.
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| Quote ="Isaiah"Does it work out any fairer if all there remaining games were given as a 1 point draw?'"
Nope. Significantly less fair in fact.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"It's a cosmetic difference. The best way to cut a poop pie, IMO.
Leeds having played 24 when everybody else has played 25 just looks odd.'"
The only 100% fair way is to expunge all their results plus Magic Weekend. The extra PR hit compared with the Bulls being liquidated and unable to complete the season would be minimal.
Hopefully it won't come to that because all the options are poor ones no matter how fair they may be.
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| They've got Harris pontificating on 5Live now
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Looks like their website is down now'"
Not just down, either. Looks like it's been removed from the server. Unpaid hosting bill or the next step on the road to liquidation?
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| Perhaps the RFL and the other clubs will allow a new Bradford club to take on Bradford Bulls' fixtures for the remainder of the season, should they be liquidated in the next week and should a new company be formed.
Whether they'd take their place in Super League next season is another question.
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| Rumoured that lynch is owed money by them
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| Interesting quotes from Potter on Guardian website. The previous admin there should be ashamed.
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| Quote ="Kosh"The only 100% fair way is to expunge all their results plus Magic Weekend. The extra PR hit compared with the Bulls being liquidated and unable to complete the season would be minimal.
Hopefully it won't come to that because all the options are poor ones no matter how fair they may be.'"
While it'd technically be swings and roundabouts for us the idea of Disco Dave's derby dash counting for nought would be more annoying for us than it would be amusing for you, I think. To lose fairly recent World Club Champions and a showpiece event (even a second class one) is short order would look... careless. The the extra PR hit of the slight imbalance...
One way or another, I think the games will be played.
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That's the one I meant! Cheers Bet
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And he's asked Francis Cummings to be his number 2!
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And he's asked Francis Cummings to be his number 2!
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Wasnt Noble one of the ones who got them in this mess to start with?
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Wasnt Noble one of the ones who got them in this mess to start with?
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| Liquidate, form a new company, let them fulfill the fixtures with the current Bulls players, if they agree (doubt anyone's got enough cap space for them not to) then relegate them to C2 and let Fax in next year.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"While it'd technically be swings and roundabouts for us the idea of Disco Dave's derby dash counting for nought would be more annoying for us than it would be amusing for you, I think. To lose fairly recent World Club Champions and a showpiece event (even a second class one) is short order would look... careless. The the extra PR hit of the slight imbalance...
One way or another, I think the games will be played.'"
Not sure it would be any great difference tbh, you'd loose 2 points from the Millennium weekend, but we'd loose 2 from beating the Bulls earlier in the season, that you'd not loose.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Liquidate, form a new company, let them fulfill the fixtures with the current Bulls players, if they agree (doubt anyone's got enough cap space for them not to) then relegate them to C2 [uand let Fax in next year.[/u'"
I can see you've really thought that one through.
'Fax didn't get within a bus stop of a franchise at the last round, what makes you think they'd be ready now?
Unfortunately I think it is more than likely that we could realistically be looking at the end of Bradford (Bulls, Northern or whatever) and possibly one other team and a 12-team SL competition going forward. At least, if the 2nd team is London, it would bring a smile to face of that sad little 2@ Easty
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| Quote ="cod'ead"I can see you've really thought that one through.
'Fax didn't get within a bus stop of a franchise at the last round, what makes you think they'd be ready now?
Unfortunately I think it is more than likely that we could realistically be looking at the end of Bradford (Bulls, Northern or whatever) and possibly one other team and a 12-team SL competition going forward. At least, if the 2nd team is London, it would bring a smile to face of that sad little 2@ Easty'"
So we're going to get rid of another team just because the Bulls will go?
And Fax is a personal preference, that's all. I never claimed it to be anything else.
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| I think, basically, that Noble will be working for free. They requested Potter to work unpaid for the rest of the season but he refused.
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