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| I find some of the comments on this thread by fellow Hull fans quite crass really.
The first thing some of you thought about was raiding their best talent, and taking advantage of the dire situation over there at Bradford. Rugby League community?
I remember a few years ago (maybe 10 years ago now) when Wakefield were in trouble, and even though we weren’t playing them that day, a lot of FC fans went to Belle Vue to offer their support (and brought with them some much needed revenue). How times have changed and some attitudes along with it.
As for people justifying it by bringing up the Radford move – give over.
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| Quote ="Neville Bartos"I find some of the comments on this thread by fellow Hull fans quite crass really.
The first thing some of you thought about was raiding their best talent, and taking advantage of the dire situation over there at Bradford. Rugby League community?
I remember a few years ago (maybe 10 years ago now) when Wakefield were in trouble, and even though we weren’t playing them that day, a lot of FC fans went to Belle Vue to offer their support (and brought with them some much needed revenue). How times have changed and some attitudes along with it.
As for people justifying it by bringing up the Radford move – give over.'"
The whole thing is corrupt, the RFL awarded Bull a B grade! then bought the stadium to bail them out, then they signed a player for a 5 yr deal a week ago!! and now they are out with the begging bowls, time for a stint NL1 me thinks...
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| Lesson number 1 against trying to buy glory
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"The whole thing is corrupt, the RFL awarded Bull a B grade! then bought the stadium to bail them out, then they signed a player for a 5 yr deal a week ago!! and now they are out with the begging bowls, time for a stint NL1 me thinks...'"
Not entirely sure what these points have to do with my post that you quoted? My post was aimed towards attitudes of those that wanted to get their pound of flesh and take advantage of their situation - not whether they should lose their license or not.
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| Let's have their best players then. Feel sorry for their fans, not a good situation at all, but have to think about our own progress.
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| Quote ="Neville Bartos"Not entirely sure what these points have to do with my post that you quoted? My post was aimed towards attitudes of those that wanted to get their pound of flesh and take advantage of their situation - not whether they should lose their license or not.'"
Did they not do exactly that to us, when they signed Vaikona?
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| In days of old we'd have had a few songs to sing to them on Friday
"Your going bust with the Rovers"
but im sure we''ll just welcome them to the KC and politley clap them .
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| Quote ="Neville Bartos"Not entirely sure what these points have to do with my post that you quoted? My post was aimed towards attitudes of those that wanted to get their pound of flesh and take advantage of their situation - not whether they should lose their license or not.'"
Well now is the best time to go in for players, they are up the creek and stand a very strong chance of going into administration, if they sell now they have a chance to keep their club!
Are you suggesting Bradford have never gone in for players when a club was struggling ? Its sport you win some and you lose some, if teams cannot hold their own at this level move down and make way for those who can.
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| Anyways, this is all setting up for a Hetherington takeover
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| Didnt they get a wildcats player like we did with obst when they went into admin? Look at it this way if we pay for there players then it helps Bradford out.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Anyways, this is all setting up for a Hetherington takeover'"
I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Well now is the best time to go in for players, they are up the creek and stand a very strong chance of going into administration, if they sell now they have a chance to keep their club!
Are you suggesting Bradford have never gone in for players when a club was struggling ? Its sport you win some and you lose some, if teams cannot hold their own at this level move down and make way for those who can.'"
I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm not trying to make a comparison to what other clubs have done in the past.
I'm having a go at the immediate repsonse by a few on here, and the excitement at potentially raiding them for their best players. It's not what our sport should be about, and I thought we as a group of fans were better than that.
As for your last point - I agree. If teams can't hold their own, they should make way, but again, that's not really the point I'm making.
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| Quote ="Neville Bartos"I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm not trying to make a comparison to what other clubs have done in the past.
I'm having a go at the immediate repsonse by a few on here, and the excitement at potentially raiding them for their best players. It's not what our sport should be about, and I thought we as a group of fans were better than that.
As for your last point - I agree. If teams can't hold their own, they should make way, but again, that's not really the point I'm making.'"
It is what our sport is about though......it is dog eat dog to get players to sign for a club, this is not amateur this is the big boy league, clubs get the best players a all costs, and on this occasion it is at the cost of a club who cannot afford to compete in the league.
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| Quote ="Neville Bartos"Quote ="Marfa Manu"Well now is the best time to go in for players, they are up the creek and stand a very strong chance of going into administration, if they sell now they have a chance to keep their club!
Are you suggesting Bradford have never gone in for players when a club was struggling ? Its sport you win some and you lose some, if teams cannot hold their own at this level move down and make way for those who can.'"
I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm not trying to make a comparison to what other clubs have done in the past.
I'm having a go at the immediate repsonse by a few on here, and the excitement at potentially raiding them for their best players. It's not what our sport should be about, and I thought we as a group of fans were better than that.
As for your last point - I agree. If teams can't hold their own, they should make way, but again, that's not really the point I'm making.'"
They are our competition. If their loss can be our gain, then so be it. It's hard on their fans, but I didn't see a big queue of opposition supporters lining up to help us out when things got bad. Neither did I expect to.
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| if the bulls did fold, what would happen to the players if the majority of clubs are upto full cap!?
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| Quote ="number 6"if the bulls did fold, what would happen to the players if the majority of clubs are upto full cap!?'"
Didn't the Crusaders players get an exemption so that clubs could take them on without penalty? I presume similar if it gets to that stage for Bradford.
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| I thought they got quote/non fed exemption, not cap exemption.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"I thought they got quote/non fed exemption, not cap exemption.'"
Quite possibly, I was off that day.
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| Think 1 or 2 are perhaps underappreciating this situation. It's not as simple as them serving penance in the National Leagues, we're talking about the possibility of a club who helped form our game going out of existence. Yes, hopefully it won't come to that, and we should certainly try and benefit from it if we can, but I don't want that benefit to come at the expense of losing the Bradford club, only as part of their way to survival. Revelling in their misfortune/mismanagement shows a lack of class, and we are amongst those who really should know better.
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| =#FF0000Edited - Chris
They deserve all they get and their sponge fingered self styled ficklest fans(there was not enough room to get on their bandwagon).
=#FF0000Edited again - Chris
NO sympathy whatsoever as they could have got their house in order many times but speculated by paying too much salary. Rovers will end up the same , refusing to cut their cloth.
Offer a fee for Burgess , Whitehead and 2 points for us on Friday I say
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Think 1 or 2 are perhaps underappreciating this situation. It's not as simple as them serving penance in the National Leagues, we're talking about the possibility of a club who helped form our game going out of existence. Yes, hopefully it won't come to that, and we should certainly try and benefit from it if we can, but I don't want that benefit to come at the expense of losing the Bradford club, only as part of their way to survival. Revelling in their misfortune/mismanagement shows a lack of class, and we are amongst those who really should know better.'"
There's no doubt players will be sold should they go into administration, that's a given, but as you say, it's the revelling, the rubbing of hands together and overall crass attitude that I saw earlier in this thread which really got my back up.
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| Quote ="Neville Bartos"icon_thumb.gif
There's no doubt players will be sold should they go into administration, that's a given, but as you say, it's the revelling, the rubbing of hands together and overall crass attitude that I saw earlier in this thread which really got my back up.'"
Grow up , it's business , end of story ! dog eat dog and the Bulls of 10 years ago would have done the same and their fans would have encouraged it as not many liked HULL as we didn't like sponge fingered hangers on
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Think 1 or 2 are perhaps underappreciating this situation. It's not as simple as them serving penance in the National Leagues, we're talking about the possibility of a club who helped form our game going out of existence. Yes, hopefully it won't come to that, and we should certainly try and benefit from it if we can, but I don't want that benefit to come at the expense of losing the Bradford club, only as part of their way to survival. Revelling in their misfortune/mismanagement shows a lack of class, and we are amongst those who really should know better.'"
Agreed, which is why I posted what I did on the page 1 of the thread. Potentially very damaging for our sport.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Agreed, which is why I posted what I did on the page 1 of the thread. Potentially very damaging for our sport.'"
Agreed, wasn't aimed at you at all. I just think there have been a few dismissive remarks that it will be as simple as them only going out of SL and that it's of their own making so it serves them right. From what I can see NL won't be an option, they'll either survive as they are or go completely, and nobody should be wanting the latter. Putting them in the NL would probably seal their fate.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"snip'"
Do you know a good lawyer?
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