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| Quote ="Standee"so I have little knowledge as I don't share your jaundiced opinion, fair enough.'"
Do you even know what jaundiced means? And you have little knowledge because you can't see what's right in front of you. Horne is not an organiser. He's got no long range kicking game. That he's been forced into those roles for so long is not his fault.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Do you even know what jaundiced means? And you have little knowledge because you can't see what's right in front of you. Horne is not an organiser. He's got no long range kicking game. That he's been forced into those roles for so long is not his fault.'"
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Has Ellis ever played 6?'"
Seymour has/does.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Personally id like to Ellis do well but i reckon he wont finish the season with us and will end up somehwere else to get game time as Horne and Seymour will be starting halfs unless injury occurs.'"
He'll get game time, Horne and Seymour won't play every game.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Personally id like to Ellis do well but i reckon he wont finish the season with us and will end up somehwere else to get game time as Horne and Seymour will be starting halfs unless injury occurs.'"
Horne will pick up injuries during the season,and Seymour isn't even here yet
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| All the players filled in a questionnaire worded by PG, what they thought was their best position, etc. What position do you think Richard Horne would have said was his best?
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| Stand off.
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| I am really excited about Ellis, I personally believe he is our most astute signing.
Will be interesting to see how things pan out on the pitch and who plays where.
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| Quote ="unknownlegend"All the players filled in a questionnaire worded by PG, what they thought was their best position, etc. What position do you think Richard Horne would have said was his best?'"
Wonder what Rich Whiting put
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Wonder what Rich Whiting put'"
Gentle said at the fans forum he saw Rich as a back rowers.
Has Rich Horne been shagging Standee's wife ? While he hasn't had a good few seasons think back to when he played with a decent half back partner.
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| Anyway according to those in the know, Horne is a fullback apparently!?
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| Quote ="steve_norton"Gentle said at the fans forum he saw Rich as a back rowers.
Has Rich Horne been shagging Standee's wife ? While he hasn't had a good few seasons think back to when he played with a decent half back partner.'"
not at all, I don't deny he has some talent, I just do not think he is good enough for a top 2 side, I sincerely hope he proves me wrong.
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| Quote ="Standee"What do you mean "unavailable", we should pick whoever the better players are on form, Horne shouldn't be an automatic selection.'"
Quote ="Standee"If he gets another contract after this one then Pearson's ascertions about top two were just hot air.'"
Do you not see a major inconsistency in simultaneously calling for us to pick the better players on form and wanting rid of a specific player before seeing how he plays in the coming season?
Your opinion on our halfbacks is more close-minded than anyone on these forums, so all this talk of picking players on form and seeing what the season brings is cobblers, you've already decided Horne is not good enough and that's not likely to change.
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| Quote ="GM1"Anyway according to those in the know, Horne is a fullback apparently!?'"
He does play well at fullback tho, very safe under the high ball and good at taking the ball up. Richard Whiting has asked to play in the back row according to Gentle and thats where the coach sees him playing next season. A position for everyone and everyone in position eh? Roll on next season
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| Quote ="GM1"Anyway according to those in the know, Horne is a fullback apparently!?'"
No denying he would do a decent job there
I think now we have options in the h/backs he may well be considered for the position if our f/back is injured, along with the ever reliable Whiting of course.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"No denying he would do a decent job there
I think now we have options in the h/backs he may well be considered for the position if our f/back is injured, along with the ever reliable Whiting of course.'"
I hope Whiting isn't. If he's going to be a back rower, let's play him there for a season and let him make the position his own. He's been buggered about enough in recent years and deserves a decent run in his preferred position.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Do you not see a major inconsistency in simultaneously calling for us to pick the better players on form and wanting rid of a specific player before seeing how he plays in the coming season?
Your opinion on our halfbacks is more close-minded than anyone on these forums, so all this talk of picking players on form and seeing what the season brings is cobblers, you've already decided Horne is not good enough and that's not likely to change.'"
I have already said I hope he proves me wrong, we shall see.
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| Will be interesting to see how Ellis goes when he gets his opportunity. It's a massive step up from championship rugby. Here's hoping he makes it.
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| Quote ="Standee"=#0000FFI have already said I hope he proves me wrong, we shall see.'"
And I don't believe you.
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| Quote ="Standee"we should pick whoever the better players are on form, quote
what an odd statement to make when you consider you have already on numerous ocassions said he isnt good enough for a top side>>?? surely if we pick people on form then we go with experience first and then see what that players form is like and go from there dont we?? or do we start with a player new to SL and leave the former GB player sat on the bench is that what you mean ??
or as is expected for the first time in ages (so long i have forgotten) Horne will start with a true half back partner and then the coaches will choose from there.... and if he doesnt do it then PG will bring in Ellis for a bash is how i see it going ...
But to say Horne isnt a top player is just silly IMO because the fella has had the world piled on his shoulders in past seasons and much of that expected is simply not what he was capeable of yet STILL did a decent job , with a decent half back partner he will go well and ellis will learn from a very experienced and well respected player in Rich horne and take his chance when the inevitable injury comes along... and 90% of half backs are injured at some point
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I hope Whiting isn't. If he's going to be a back rower, let's play him there for a season and let him make the position his own. He's been buggered about enough in recent years and deserves a decent run in his preferred position.'"
Just read that....I also hope he can make a position is own (I have no doubts he will either). I also think it is a good option to put him in the back-row.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"And I don't believe you.'"
we'll see during the season, wont we.
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| If Whiting wants to play 2nd row I don't see him getting much game time this year, and it makes signing Burnett again even more baffling.
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| Quote ="voodooroo"
I agree with Standee,Horne is not a top player!!
I consider he has been average for several years, however it will be interesting to see how he gets on with an organizing 7 saying that he has had Longy for a few games and played an average game with a couple of good moments.
Hope he and the rest of the team go well though under Gentle.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Just read that....I also hope he can make a position is own (I have no doubts he will either). I also think it is a good option to put him in the back-row.'"
i agree , i think Rich Whiting could be a VERY useful back rower or loose man indeed, wouldnt it be nice to have someone who can handle a ball well too in the 2nds, and he can certainly handle the heavyweights no problem when it comes to banging them down as he is certainly no mans fool and as a second his pace will fit right in i think, much better bet than burnett thats for sure
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