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Quote ="Standee"I'm 95% sure he has secured employment elsewhere, but at this stage I'd be wary of saying "FACT".
no hint of the word "us" or "me" or "boys", he refers to the club, the organisation, the greater combination of all things, I do believe it means that Agar and some players will be leaving Hull FC, and some other staff, and I can honestly say, of the various names I have heard, not one single decision will make us anything other than stronger.
BUT, to ensure this, I would urge anyone who can be bothered to do so, email tellus@hullfc.com, explain in no uncertain terms that if Agar remains at the club that you will not renew your season pass, explain how we've not kicked on, explain how we have, so we are told, spent full cap on has (or never have) beens and chancers, with the odd noteable exception, remind AP that we are the club that signed Reardon, Tansey, Maiava et al, remind the club that we haven't given a single youth player their Super League debut this season, remind the club that we are the only team not to have done so, remind the club that the most meaningful thing we have won in recent times was a fair play award, REMIND THE CLUB THAT IT'S CUSTOMERS ARE NOT SATISFIED.
You will get an automated reply stating that "abusive or derogatory emails will not get a response", that is the old regeime, this is our chance for a fresh start, MAKE YOURSELVES HEARD (politley, respectfully and thoughtfully).
I would hope FCVoices are demaing a fans forum before the end of the season, we were promised 3 as I recall?'"
Are these emails likely to get to pearson? May be better to email him at city and then they can't be intercepted
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Quote ="Standee"I'm 95% sure he has secured employment elsewhere, but at this stage I'd be wary of saying "FACT".
no hint of the word "us" or "me" or "boys", he refers to the club, the organisation, the greater combination of all things, I do believe it means that Agar and some players will be leaving Hull FC, and some other staff, and I can honestly say, of the various names I have heard, not one single decision will make us anything other than stronger.
BUT, to ensure this, I would urge anyone who can be bothered to do so, email tellus@hullfc.com, explain in no uncertain terms that if Agar remains at the club that you will not renew your season pass, explain how we've not kicked on, explain how we have, so we are told, spent full cap on has (or never have) beens and chancers, with the odd noteable exception, remind AP that we are the club that signed Reardon, Tansey, Maiava et al, remind the club that we haven't given a single youth player their Super League debut this season, remind the club that we are the only team not to have done so, remind the club that the most meaningful thing we have won in recent times was a fair play award, REMIND THE CLUB THAT IT'S CUSTOMERS ARE NOT SATISFIED.
You will get an automated reply stating that "abusive or derogatory emails will not get a response", that is the old regeime, this is our chance for a fresh start, MAKE YOURSELVES HEARD (politley, respectfully and thoughtfully).
I would hope FCVoices are demaing a fans forum before the end of the season, we were promised 3 as I recall?'"
Are these emails likely to get to pearson? May be better to email him at city and then they can't be intercepted
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| Quote ="Trawlerman"For us it was a last minute thing this year. The deciding factor being when the Sky games were announced for the first half of the season and we were only on 2 or 3 times. If we had of been on as much as Leeds or Warrington I wouldn't of renewed.
As for next season immediately after the Pearson deal it was a yes. Thats now worn off and after the last three games and our attempt to sign yet another 30+ Aussie almost definately won't be renewing with or without Agar. I'll pick my games based on the opposition, the weather, the live TV game and what else I have on over the weekend.'"
I think a lot of people will be of the same opinion. Unless we appoint a massive name in the coaching field or do something significant with prices, then I think pass sales will fall anyway.
I'll get one if agar is gone before the end of the discount period. if he isn't tehn I won't and I doubt my mate will so that's 4 more won't be renewed
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| I can only echo Standee's point. It's all very well posting on a message board but people need to contact the club directly.
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| I am not if Agar is still in charge. For the first time ever this season the excitement of going to the game has gone. I travel from Sheffield and it's just too much now when the buzz has gone. That is due to the false promises of the past four years. I can see only 6000 renewing next year. It is the only way they will know that the fans have finally had enough of blindly following Hull FC. I may renew if I lived in Hull but how are the club ever going to expand the fan base with the current product? The problem now is they have missed the trick on capitalising on the success of 05 and 06 and those chance don’t come around often if you look at the history of success at our club. Not renewing my pass is the only protest I can see being effective. I hope the whole coaching staff are removed, a complete overhaul is needed to get rid of the current culture. The rumour I’m getting though is that Agar has been assured he will be able to see out his current contract by Mr Pearson.
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| Pearson is a money man. He knows the only way to increase the club's (and his) income is to increase attendances. If pass sales are down on this year he'll soon work out why. The only problem is that the end of the discount period is the New Year when we are only weeks away from the start of the season.
As has been suggested e-mail the club or even write by snail mail to him personally. He needs to get the message. FWIW I can't believe anyone would dare intercept his post or e-mails.
The only other thing we can do is make our feelings clear at the two remaining home games - at the end of the match of course.
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| Doesn't seem like good news ahead!!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"It's a false economy. I didn't renew my pass this year intending to just pick and choose my games. But whenever it was game night I couldn't bring myself to stay away and have now given the club a lot more than I would have with a pass.
I know it's exactly this that the club feed on, but I'm sorry, I love my club and will always support the team regardless of who's in charge. It's unconditional.'"
I understand that but for me as I live outside Hull if I don't get a pass I won't come at all due to the fuel costs aswell as match ticket prices.
If Agar is here in his current tole then I won't be.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"Pearson is a money man. He knows the only way to increase the club's (and his) income is to increase attendances. If pass sales are down on this year he'll soon work out why. The only problem is that the end of the discount period is the New Year when we are only weeks away from the start of the season.
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It would be obvious to AP that 2011 pass sales were down on 2010, hence no announcement. He'll also be very aware of the current attitude of the fans toward Agar and he'd be a very stupid man indeed (which he isn't), not to read this forum. Even if it cost £100k to pay Agar off and we had to spend £200k on a new coach, compared to losing £500k in pass sales alone, it's a no-brainer
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The email idea is a good one, but I can't imagine Adam Pearson accessing it directly. Does he have a direct email, I wonder? Can't see one on our or City's website. Can't see Rule feeling compelled to pass on a lot of customer complaints about the current (his) regime.'"
I could'nt find one either so just wrote to him at the KC. I've emailed a couple of times "for the attention of Adam Pearson" but doubt they will get passed on. Surely he must know he is flogging a dead horse with Agar, even Hudgell knows you have to have a decent coach!!
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| Havent attended a home game, since Rule announced Agar's contract
extension on 1st April.
Will not go, until Agar is removed.
I hope Rule is not 'brainwashing' Pearson about how good 'Rich' is !!!!
Pearson has stated he wants crowds to improve,
they will go DOWN if Agar stays.
I have a nagging feeling Agar will stay , until sales of passes decrease.
If that is the case, it will be difficult to recruit a quality head coach, at that time.
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| I wont be buying my pass for next season, I will however downgrade it for a Junior to retain my seat. I nearly did not get one for this season and the amount of home games I have attended means I have wasted money on this years pass (Although clawed it back through selling match vouchers).
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| Mods,
How about a poll?
"Will you renew your season ticket if Agar stays?"
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I can only echo Standee's point. It's all very well posting on a message board but people need to contact the club directly.'"
Message boards, emails all futile imo. The only way AP will act is by looking at the balance sheet. There was still far too many buying shirts, hats etc at the start of this season to be noticed. But the signs are there for all to see without really investigating. 11700 for a Friday night match against Wigan. Pathetic! (Plus a derby match which did not sell out.)
That for me is at least 4000 down on what it potentially should have been. We should be competing for a top 4 place given our grade A status. That would get a crowd in and all the benefits of that. That's 4000 who haven't emailed the club, haven't written in they have simply walked away.
If things remain the same the period from November to February when I suspect most of the clubs non gate income is collected will be greatly reduced. Season passes, shirts etc will not be bought and that is the travesty of it all.
Now if AP chooses to ignore that and keep Agar and his coaching team then AP's £3m will be completely wasted and Kath and Co will be laughing loudest.
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| Quote ="weaver93"Mods,
How about a poll?
"Will you renew your season ticket if Agar stays?"'"
Polls are always spoilt by mischievous opposition fans.
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| Well I am clearly in the minority who is going to renew then.
I think its time Agar moved on but tbh I would still go if Richard Madeley was in charge, let alone Richard Agar.
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| Already done the email and written, but TBH the longer it goes on the less I feel anything is going to change regarding the coach for next season. My initial hope and optimism from the takeover by Pearson has now subsided and just have the feeling of here we go again.
Just hope Pearson announces soon the Agar will not be here come next season, only slight belief I have in that is that he has not as yet come out and stated one way or the other that Agar will be here so I'm hoping & praying he is replacing him at the end of the season.
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Quote ="Standee"I'm 95% sure he has secured employment elsewhere, but at this stage I'd be wary of saying "FACT".
no hint of the word "us" or "me" or "boys", he refers to the club, the organisation, the greater combination of all things, I do believe it means that Agar and some players will be leaving Hull FC, and some other staff, and I can honestly say, of the various names I have heard, not one single decision will make us anything other than stronger.
BUT, to ensure this, I would urge anyone who can be bothered to do so, email tellus@hullfc.com, explain in no uncertain terms that if Agar remains at the club that you will not renew your season pass, explain how we've not kicked on, explain how we have, so we are told, spent full cap on has (or never have) beens and chancers, with the odd noteable exception, remind AP that we are the club that signed Reardon, Tansey, Maiava et al, remind the club that we haven't given a single youth player their Super League debut this season, remind the club that we are the only team not to have done so, remind the club that the most meaningful thing we have won in recent times was a fair play award, REMIND THE CLUB THAT IT'S CUSTOMERS ARE NOT SATISFIED.
You will get an automated reply stating that "abusive or derogatory emails will not get a response", that is the old regeime, this is our chance for a fresh start, MAKE YOURSELVES HEARD (politley, respectfully and thoughtfully).
I would hope FCVoices are demaing a fans forum before the end of the season, we were promised 3 as I recall?'"
Totally agree....I wrote to Rule in Feb this year outlining my prediction of how much revenue the club will lose in ticket sales if they maintained their support for Rich Agar. Just a standard response back thanking for me for my 'continued support'.
As I live in Leeds, I didn't renew my season pass for this year, and if Agar is still at the helm I certainly won't be next year....as sad as that is. Away games are easier for me to get too and I probably enjoy them more anyway. In my opinion the atmosphere at the KC for the few games I've attended this year has been awful....not worth a 140 mile round trip after a long week at work....people just sat there, resigned to their fate....at least now with a new owner it's not as helpless a situation as we were faced with.
Come on AP.....do the maths
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Quote ="Standee"I'm 95% sure he has secured employment elsewhere, but at this stage I'd be wary of saying "FACT".
no hint of the word "us" or "me" or "boys", he refers to the club, the organisation, the greater combination of all things, I do believe it means that Agar and some players will be leaving Hull FC, and some other staff, and I can honestly say, of the various names I have heard, not one single decision will make us anything other than stronger.
BUT, to ensure this, I would urge anyone who can be bothered to do so, email tellus@hullfc.com, explain in no uncertain terms that if Agar remains at the club that you will not renew your season pass, explain how we've not kicked on, explain how we have, so we are told, spent full cap on has (or never have) beens and chancers, with the odd noteable exception, remind AP that we are the club that signed Reardon, Tansey, Maiava et al, remind the club that we haven't given a single youth player their Super League debut this season, remind the club that we are the only team not to have done so, remind the club that the most meaningful thing we have won in recent times was a fair play award, REMIND THE CLUB THAT IT'S CUSTOMERS ARE NOT SATISFIED.
You will get an automated reply stating that "abusive or derogatory emails will not get a response", that is the old regeime, this is our chance for a fresh start, MAKE YOURSELVES HEARD (politley, respectfully and thoughtfully).
I would hope FCVoices are demaing a fans forum before the end of the season, we were promised 3 as I recall?'"
Totally agree....I wrote to Rule in Feb this year outlining my prediction of how much revenue the club will lose in ticket sales if they maintained their support for Rich Agar. Just a standard response back thanking for me for my 'continued support'.
As I live in Leeds, I didn't renew my season pass for this year, and if Agar is still at the helm I certainly won't be next year....as sad as that is. Away games are easier for me to get too and I probably enjoy them more anyway. In my opinion the atmosphere at the KC for the few games I've attended this year has been awful....not worth a 140 mile round trip after a long week at work....people just sat there, resigned to their fate....at least now with a new owner it's not as helpless a situation as we were faced with.
Come on AP.....do the maths
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| I'll be getting a pass next year having not had one this year.By the end of the season I'll have spent double on match tickets to what a pass would have cost, so it really has been a false economy for me.
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| I (and 2 people I go with) didn't renew their passes for THIS season.
65+ years of support between us.
I haven't been to a home game all season or bought any merchandise.
I will definately not be getting another pass until Agar has gone.
The longer he is here, the worse the club is getting and the longer it will take for us to recover.
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| Ive just toldthem via email and ive also added that i want a genuine response and not some pregenerated response that everyone gets sent. Lets have a see what happens
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| Quote ="hullbg"I wont be buying my pass for next season, I will however downgrade it for a Junior to retain my seat. '"
I did that this season, but only attended a fraction of the games. Living away from the area means that attending games is a major operation and the incentive just isn't there. If Agar remains in charge I won't even renew the junior pass next season. The previous poster had it right when he said emails and suchlike were unlikely to make a difference. It's money (or lack of it) that will talk loudest.
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| Ill be renewing regardless, as will the 20 or so of us who meet in walton club every week before the game. I would if we'd have lost our franchise and started playing in NL1 tbh.
I have been a supporter of Agar in the past but he's had a chance. Fall on your sword Agar fook of to Wakey and let somebody else have a go.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Well I am clearly in the minority who is going to renew then.
I think its time Agar moved on but tbh I would still go if Richard Madeley was in charge, let alone Richard Agar.'"
If Judy gets her t1ts out there may be a little excitment!
Seriously can anyone actually claim one positive that Agar has brought to the club?
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