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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"I'm a little lost. How can Mr Allam claim to be gifting us use of the KC facilities when the facilities are property of KUHCC?'"
TBH that's a fair point but he is, I believe, chairman of the SMC (?) so effectively manages the stadium. Although him "gifting" us the use of the KC when he doesn't own it is a bit of a leap of faith. A bit like saying I "gift" him the use of my seat there because he once looked towards it. Its not [umy[/u seat in the same way it's not [uhis[/u stadium.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Almost 50 grand a match. Shame we didn't have the cash to build our own place like saints. I reckon they will be flying financially in a few years. Anyone know how much their new stadium is costing them? It looks superb'"
I don't think 600K a year is too bad to shell out in the grand scheme of things, other SL teams will be paying far more just to keep their grounds up and running. And at least we can budget fairly accurately for the rent costs, and not have any unexpected costs like roofs caving in, boilers breaking down etc.
Saints new ground is costing around 24million.
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"I'm a little lost. How can Mr Allam claim to be gifting us use of the KC facilities when the facilities are property of KUHCC?'"
Indeed. The rules seem to be that he's allowed to claim what he likes without challenge, critique or even mild eyebrow-raising by our local "journalists". Just print what he says with a nice big headline. Lovely.
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| Quote ="UllFC"I don't think 600K a year is too bad to shell out in the grand scheme of things, other SL teams will be paying far more just to keep their grounds up and running. And at least we can budget fairly accurately for the rent costs, and not have any unexpected costs like roofs caving in, boilers breaking down etc.
Saints new ground is costing around 24million.'"
My thoughts also. I think that the deal with the Saints ground is a lease too, albeit a very long one.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Indeed. The rules seem to be that he's allowed to claim what he likes without challenge, critique or even mild eyebrow-raising by our local "journalists". Just print what he says with a nice big headline. Lovely.'"
He sounds like our very own Fidel Castro.
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| Quote ="UllFC"I don't think 600K a year is too bad to shell out in the grand scheme of things, other SL teams will be paying far more just to keep their grounds up and running. And at least we can budget fairly accurately for the rent costs, and not have any unexpected costs like roofs caving in, boilers breaking down etc.
Saints new ground is costing around 24million.'"
I assume by paying the SMC we also avoid the hefty Security and Policing bill that goes with matchdays?
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| Hey..... Lets just go back to The Boulev........errrrrm Eh, ah......i guess that anenue has been well and truly shafted LOL
BUT......The Idea of having something like Wire or Saints have......On that site would please this fan immensley. (it would have to be oval shaped though )
Now.....Has anyone got a spare 30 million quid ????
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Indeed. The rules seem to be that he's allowed to claim what he likes without challenge, critique or even mild eyebrow-raising by our local "journalists". Just print what he says with a nice big headline. Lovely.'"
Not exactly blessed with journalists the quality of the Watergate lot, or the guys that got Jonathan Atkin on perjury are we.
Having seen the stuff the HDM print realting to the work I do I'm pretty well of the opinon a bunch of monkeys mashing away at a typewriter would produce beter quality print. Bunch of clueless s the lot of them,
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"I'm a little lost. How can Mr Allam claim to be gifting us use of the KC facilities when the facilities are property of KUHCC?'"
Did you not know? Allam has bought the council. He is now in negotiation to actually buy the city off the government. I believe that plans to rename it Sharm el Allam are proving problematic.
He has threatened the government that unless they give in, he is going to build his own city on a huge manmade island with sand from the Sahara, just off Tunstall.
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"I assume by paying the SMC we also avoid the hefty Security and Policing bill that goes with matchdays?'"
Yes, the 600K is an 'all in' deal, covers stewarding, ticket office staff, policing, stadium maintenance and cleaning...
I'm not convinced we'd be able to do it ourselves any cheaper.
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| I really dont trust him at all. He can give KR as much as he wants as long as he leaves FC alone. Theres something really fishy going on but as soon as our council see money their eyes light up and they wont turn it down.
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| Quote ="airlie"I really dont trust him at all. He can give KR as much as he wants as long as he leaves FC alone. Theres something really fishy going on but as soon as our council see money their eyes light up and they wont turn it down.'"
It might be a completely philanthropic gift to the city, respecting covenants, charters, listed buildings and appropriate guardianship of a community asset. It might be that there are no commercial gains to be made through the scheme. It may be that although he's talked of merging the two rugby clubs, he didn't [ureally[/u mean it. It may be that the request for some detailed plans and funding proposals requested at the council meeting 3 weeks ago was misunderstood. It may be that he has afforded FC benefits in the last 6 months of equal worth to a £1m loan/gift to Rovers. Any or all of these may be completely true. The point is that no one other than the council seem willing/able to examine the detail.
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| don't really see what a sporting village would bring to the city!
we already have an ice arena so do we need another? an ice hockey team that barely attracts 1000 fans to most games, so an ice 'arena' will become a white elephant. An olympic size swimming pool? is this actually needed when there is a centre of excellence in sheffield purposley built for aquatics, (plus there is albert ave baths round the corner from walton street!), seems a lot of facilities that we don't really need as we already have them!
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| Quote ="number 6"don't really see what a sporting village would bring to the city!
we already have an ice arena so do we need another? an ice hockey team that barely attracts 1000 fans to most games, so an ice 'arena' will become a white elephant. An olympic size swimming pool? is this actually needed when there is a centre of excellence in sheffield purposley built for aquatics, (plus there is albert ave baths round the corner from walton street!), seems a lot of facilities that we don't really need as we already have them!'"
You been in Albert ave baths? was in there on sun with my youngest....what a dump....much prefer Hatemprice but thats East Riding run and you can tell the difference..a lot cleaner.
As for Allam...the blokes a certifiable loon.He may have made his money in buisnes but,when it comes to sporting matters,he is more like Balderick..."i have a cunning plan".
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| Quote ="fc baldy"You been in Albert ave baths? was in there on sun with my youngest....what a dump....much prefer Hatemprice but thats East Riding run and you can tell the difference..a lot cleaner.
As for Allam...the blokes a certifiable loon.He may have made his money in buisnes but,when it comes to sporting matters,he is more like Balderick..."[ui have a cunning plan[/u".'"
to be fair, most of Baldricks were sensible compared to his.
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| Quote ="number 6"
we already have an ice arena so do we need another? an ice hockey team that barely attracts 1000 fans to most games, so an ice 'arena' will become a white elephant. '"
Ice Arena is at least 10 years out of date, wants condemning, its in a very poor state.
Would be great to have a larger one that could double up as a mid sized concert venue or used for other smaller events
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Our "problem" is, unlike you, we have read all of his comments on just how much assistance [uhe[/u gives Hull FC. Now if you're too thick to comprehend this or simply too dumb to appreciate the background, may I suggest you butt out of the conversation?'"
Hate intruders.
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"He sounds like our very own Fidel Castro.'"
Hosni Mubarak !
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| Quote ="number 6"don't really see what a sporting village would bring to the city!
we already have an ice arena so do we need another? an ice hockey team that barely attracts 1000 fans to most games, so an ice 'arena' will become a white elephant. An olympic size swimming pool? is this actually needed when there is a centre of excellence in sheffield purposley built for aquatics, (plus there is albert ave baths round the corner from walton street!), seems a lot of facilities that we don't really need as we already have them!'"
This city is in need of good facilities, having the attitude of "theres a centre of excellence in sheffield" isnt the answer, talented kids in Hull are getting overlooked because when they reach a stage where they have to go to another level, our kids have to travel out of town, gymnastics in the city, if there good enough have to travel to Leeds for training, football for girls have just had their centre of excellence taken off them, now I dont think for one minute Mr Allam is going to provide these facilities, but he talks a good talk, and people in Hull will fall for it (if it goes to a public vote), hes already spoken to the local gymast academy on what they would require to progress, they think hes the next messiah, promising the earth if he gets the village, it would be good for the sporting talent in Hull if this village was built, but he in reality isnt going to provide it! and i wouldnt want him too, but i would love to see it provided, just not by him!
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| If he wants to build a sports village so much as a 'gift' to the city, he could quite easily buy some cheap land elsewhere in Hull and build one. That would be nice.
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| I just "nudged" Hull City Council, asking why I hadn't received acknowledgement of my F.O.I request on May 20th, reminding them of their obligations under the act, roughly 30 minutes later I got this:
Freedom of Information Act 2000 – Information Request - 000786/11
We acknowledge receipt of your information request received on 20/05/2011 which is being processed according to the Freedom of Information Act (2000).
The legislation allows us 20 working days to respond which takes us to 20/06/2011. There are some circumstances under which this deadline may be extended legally but we will inform you as soon as we know if these apply.
So, by Monday I should have some answers, or some excuses.
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| Quote ="Standee"I just "nudged" Hull City Council, asking why I hadn't received acknowledgement of my F.O.I request on May 20th, reminding them of their obligations under the act, roughly 30 minutes later I got this:
Freedom of Information Act 2000 – Information Request - 000786/11
We acknowledge receipt of your information request received on 20/05/2011 which is being processed according to the Freedom of Information Act (2000).
The legislation allows us 20 working days to respond which takes us to 20/06/2011. There are some circumstances under which this deadline may be extended legally but we will inform you as soon as we know if these apply.
So, by Monday I should have some answers, or some excuses.'"
Sounds like they'd not taken the request seriously until your nudge.
Looking forward to their answers.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Sounds like they'd not taken the request seriously until your nudge.
Looking forward to their answers.'"
They're probably bringing in a consultant on mega-bucks (with an assistant) to answer the question.
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