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| I go back to what i said at the begining he's not good enough at this level and should walk away, and let the club try and move forwards witht the appointment of a new coach!
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| So, from that article I now know that it's the players who run the show.
Players don't like John Kear (1 trophy) - off he goes.
Players like Agar (0 trophies) - he stays.
Shouldn't it be the coach who is in charge? What message does it send to any prospective coaches? The board won't back you if you try and instil discipline, because the players are in charge?
No company I ever worked for has this mentality.
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| Quote ="beetwaste"So, from that article I now know that it's the players who run the show.
Players don't like John Kear (1 trophy) - off he goes.
Players like Agar (0 trophies) - he stays.
Shouldn't it be the coach who is in charge? What message does it send to any prospective coaches? The board won't back you if you try and instil discipline, because the players are in charge?
No company I ever worked for has this mentality.'"
An example of this was Long deciding whether or not he would be fit enough to play, shouldn't the coach be telling the player/media his chances of playing? He doesn't appear to have control over anything at the club and it goes downhill on match days, worst rotation of a squad I have ever seen.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Ah the old played at the highest level.
Explain Jose Mourinho to me.'"
mourinho learned his trade under a great manager
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| Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"An example of this was Long deciding whether or not he would be fit enough to play, shouldn't the coach be telling the player/media his chances of playing? He doesn't appear to have control over anything at the club and it goes downhill on match days, worst rotation of a squad I have ever seen.'" erm i think you have that wrong! How does the coach know how the players injury is doing? Its the players body he knows wether he's fit or not
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| Quote ="beetwaste"So, from that article I now know that it's the players who run the show.
Players don't like John Kear (1 trophy) - off he goes.
Players like Agar (0 trophies) - he stays.
Shouldn't it be the coach who is in charge? What message does it send to any prospective coaches? The board won't back you if you try and instil discipline, because the players are in charge?
No company I ever worked for has this mentality.'"
Surely if you asked Agar he'd also say he was good enough and stay in the job. One thing you can't doubt is Agar has instilled discipline, he binned a number of 'unprofessional' players and has just sacked Tansey.
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| The article itself does not hold that much credence as there is no quote from anybody associated with Hull FC that his job is safe, although i do feel he will have a few more games yet to try and turn it around.
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| I think it's a fair suggestion by the club see how he is doing by mid way thru the season to keep a top side with Brough in to a 10 point deficit I would say is okay, I think u will beat crusaders and then put a few wins together, if the players are behind the coach then they will play they're hearts out. On the flip side crusaders are no team to underestimate espec with superman playing for them, which by the way I dont rate him and think hull have had a lucky escape there, think there are far better half backs than him.
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| Quote ="djlard"www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-FC-Agar-job-safe/article-3275920-detail/article.html'"
Sounds like a vote of confidence to me.How many boards say that before a coach gets the sack?.Saying that i do think its time for everyone to rally round and get behind the team,if nothing else just for the suppoters to install some confidence into the team.
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| Quote ="djlard"www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-FC-Agar-job-safe/article-3275920-detail/article.html'"
The mail are mischief making, this will infuriate a lot of fans and may well affect the gate...however it clearly states the board will not respond to any questions
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| Totally agree, the article says Agar given more time but then goes on to say no-one from the club would comment.
To me that says it was made up by the HDM, probably to sell newspapers as it will incite the fans on here for one.
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Sounds like a vote of confidence to me..'"
By who ?
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| Quote And the Mail understands Hull have so much faith in his ability, his position as coach has not even been discussed by board members at the KC Stadium.'"
Well, who can blame them? A 40% win ratio speaks for itself.
Quote Although the club did not wish to comment on the speculation surrounding Agar's future when approached by the Mail, sources say his position will only fall under the spotlight should FC remain in a poor position come mid-season.
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Good idea. If we wait until mid-season, we can make sure that it's definitely too late to do anything about it and we can write off another season. Roll on 2012!
Quote They are also of the opinion that having played three sides with top-four ambitions, Hull have had one of the toughest starts of any Super League side.'"
We've played one side that finished below us in the table last season who don't have a hope in hell of making the top 4, an understrength Leeds side who went down to 14 men during the game, and Huddersfield away. I don't think too many teams will come away from Hudds with the points this season, so that one you could argue is fair enough. The other two, well...
Quote Whilst unhappy with the form of his team, Agar isn't too concerned yet given the quality of opposition Hull have faced.'"
No doubt we'll pick up a few scrappy wins against the likes of Wakefield, Salford and Crusaders and we'll be expected to believe everything is suddenly rosy.
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| Quote ="Punos"Totally agree, the article says Agar given more time but then goes on to say no-one from the club would comment.
To me that says it was made up by the HDM, [uprobably to sell newspapers as it will incite the fans [/uon here for one.'"
I just said the same on a different thread
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"By who ?'"
Reading between the lines i would say the board,because it is deffo not the supporters.
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| Quote ="Punos"Totally agree, the article says Agar given more time but then goes on to say no-one from the club would comment.
To me that says it was made up by the HDM, probably to sell newspapers as it will incite the fans on here for one.'"
Totally agree, 'no one available from the club would comment, but sources say he will be given more time', they prob been reading some of the posts on this forum.
Get rid now ! its not just the first 3 games of this season FFS
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Reading between the lines i would say the board,because it is deffo not the supporters.
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Reading between the lines it is a Journo doing what Gollum did last week, forcing an issue, the journo will be more than aware how most FC fans will respond to this.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"The mail are mischief making, this will infuriate a lot of fans and may well affect the gate...however it clearly states the board will not respond to any questions
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They might well have responded to the questions, told the Mail not to quote them directly and said that they should quote 'a source' at the club.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"They might well have responded to the questions, told the Mail not to quote them directly and said that they should quote 'a source' at the club.'"
Possible to test the water for Friday ?..see how many fans react and stay away?
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| The club knew of this story yesterday and I believe had approved it.
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| Hull Board to be recruited by Middle Eastern tyrant to run PR dept and keep crumbling dictatorship in power.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"The club knew of this story yesterday and I believe had approved it.'"
Surely that's the job of the sports editor at the mail not Kath!!
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Surely that's the job of the sports editor at the mail not Kath!!'"
When I say approved I mean given their blessing as it were, along the lines of don't quote me directly but you can use 'a source at the club'.
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| Mid season it is then. Had a feeling it might be. Oh well - I guess that leaves enough time to do a proper search for a decent coach, although recruitment is likely to be pretty much finished by then.
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