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| Quote ="Standee"I've been twice this season, one game they sang "we ate glazers, we ate glazers" for 90 minutes, the other they sang about Carlos Tevez.'"
They didnt did they?
This is fantasy stuff by you.
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| Quote ="jimmys sidestep"They didnt did they?
This is fantasy stuff by you.'"
Yes, indeed, completely made up.
Have you been this season, did you go to the City game (Hull and Manchester), because I assure you, at both games, that's what the wonderful supporters of Manchester United sang, they rarely got behind the players on the pitch.
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| Quote ="Standee"Yes, because they sold, hmmm, ONE PLAYER?
How is the club being screwed over, more than any other side in the Premisership?'"
Carlos Tevez wanted to stay. Noises already being made about Vidic going to Spain this Summer. They have however bought in a replacement in advance ti soften the blow, Chris Smalling from Fulham.
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| A couple of bad performances in the next 2 games could see a crowd well below expectations for the game which will maybe make them start to take note
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| Quote ="Standee"I've been twice this season, one game they sang "we ate glazers, we ate glazers" for 90 minutes, the other they sang about Carlos Tevez.'"
Your just being silly now. Even from watching on TV you can clearly hear a wide variety of songs being sung during most, if not all, games.
As for demonstrations its not normally something I would even consider but when you look at what happened with Wire and Cullen it looks like it could be the only way to get something done about the current coaching set up. Our board seem blindly convinced he is the man for the job and as long as the money keeps coming in and the negative press is kept to a minimum they will not change their mind.
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| Quote ="jimmys sidestep"Carlos Tevez wanted to stay. Noises already being made about Vidic going to Spain this Summer. They have however bought in a replacement in advance ti soften the blow, Chris Smalling from Fulham.'"
This is an FC thread, so we'll get back to FC, but to answer your point, Tevez maybe wanted to stay, did Ferguson want to keep him?
Jake is right, the only real way of getting things changed is to hit them in the pocket.
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| Quote ="Standee"Yes, indeed, completely made up.
Have you been this season, did you go to the City game (Hull and Manchester), because I assure you, at both games, that's what the wonderful supporters of Manchester United sang, they rarely got behind the players on the pitch.'"
Oh no not completely made up. just exaggerrated a lot.
Yes both games thank you so i can say with supreme confidence you are lying. Not hear the 12 Cantonas song amongst others? Thought not. Bloody Prawn sandwich eating tarquins etc etc etc
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| Quote ="jimmys sidestep"Oh no not completely made up. just exaggerrated a lot.
Yes both games thank you so i can say with supreme confidence you are lying. Not hear the 12 Cantonas song amongst others? Thought not. Bloody Prawn sandwich eating tarquins etc etc etc'"
Believe me, I did not hear a Cantona song from the tyrones, we didn't have sandiwches, the corporate restaurant doesn't do them!
Anyway, FC.....
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| Quote ="Standee"Believe me, I did not hear a Cantona song from the tyrones, we didn't have sandiwches, the corporate restaurant doesn't do them!
Anyway, FC.....'"
But you made the other stuff up to suit your argument
Anyway, a subject you hopefully know more about......
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| Quote ="Standee"You mean a reminder of when the club was poorly run, in financial trouble and playing out of a delapidated ground?
I'm no fan of the boards insistence of keeping Agar, but I don't want the "heady days of the 90's" back.'"
I'm not sure where I said I wanted that? I was just stating a colour and it's connection (kits of the early 90's).
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| Quote ="jimmys sidestep"But you made the other stuff up to suit your argument
Anyway, a subject you hopefully know more about......'"
I didn't make anything up, I know what the match day experience was like, awful, I can understand it having an effect on the players as well.
One thing I do know, as do you, a demonstration at the KC would do nothing to make the club sack Agar.
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| Quote ="Standee"I didn't make anything up, I know what the match day experience was like, awful, I can understand it having an effect on the players as well.
One thing I do know, as do you, a demonstration at the KC would do nothing to make the club sack Agar.'"
You did Standee, you said at both games there were only two songs sang. This is a lie.
Anyhoo, quite correct im afraid
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| Maybe we should all buy a red and white scarf for the saints game
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Maybe we should all buy a red and white scarf for the saints game'"
I suggest about 2,500 turn up an hour early, make sure 1,500 of them bring two house bricks each, 250 bring a bucket of sand and cement, 250 bring buckets of water and 500 bring a trowel!
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| Quote ="Standee"I suggest about 2,500 turn up an hour early, make sure 1,500 of them bring two house bricks each, 250 bring a bucket of sand and cement, 250 bring buckets of water and 500 bring a trowel!'"
This is supposed to be a protest, not agar's next defensive strategy
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| Quote ="Robbo4"As for demonstrations its not normally something I would even consider but when you look at what happened with Wire and Cullen it looks like it could be the only way to get something done about the current coaching set up. Our board seem blindly convinced he is the man for the job and as long as the money keeps coming in and the negative press is kept to a minimum they will not change their mind.'"
Cullen walked, and the Wire board then appointed Lowes. It took quite a while longer before they got around to appointing Smith.
I can't see Agar walking away from the job no matter how many protests are held. Cullen was an ex player and a fan, so far more emotionally involved.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Cullen walked, and the Wire board then appointed Lowes. It took quite a while longer before they got around to appointing Smith.
I can't see Agar walking away from the job no matter how many protests are held. Cullen was an ex player and a fan, so far more emotionally involved.'"
My point was that poor performances on the pitch are going to have no effect on the board whatsoever. I get the feeling they have decided after sacking the last 2 coaches relatively quickly that stability is key and if they wait long enough Agar will bring success. The only way to change this point of view is to hit them in the pocket and the fastest way to do that is with protests as it raises awareness and builds support.
The major hurdle to that is the attitude of the fans who think that protests and staying away means you are being disloyal when in fact it couldn't be further from the truth.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"My point was that poor performances on the pitch are going to have no effect on the board whatsoever. I get the feeling they have decided after sacking the last 2 coaches relatively quickly that stability is key and if they wait long enough Agar will bring success. The only way to change this point of view is to hit them in the pocket and the fastest way to do that is with protests as it raises awareness and builds support.
The major hurdle to that is the attitude of the fans who think that protests and staying away means you are being disloyal when in fact it couldn't be further from the truth.'"
May I say , without trying to belittle your post that you could not be further from the truth about the loyalties of Mrs Hetherington , JR and RA.
I can say from personal experience of the lady that there is no bigger fan of FC and no one who wants them to do well more than KH , thats a fact!!
with regards the finances I can assure you Mrs Hetherington is not in need of the cash !!
JR watches every match like a fan in a suit and i have personally witnessed him screaming at players and refs who make mistakes just like all fans do .
And Mr Agar I can tell you is a very very calm , mild mannered individual who does not let on field issues get to him, he motors forward in a very VERY professional manner but i can assure you recent events have hurt him very much but unlike many on here , HE does not give up !!
Do not underestimate how much the sucess of the club means to the people who matter, it does not seem like it does to you all because you dont see them on a weekly basis ..
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| also do you think that acting like halfwits in a protest will make players play better, or injuries not happen...
It will just make the whole scenario that much worse .. thankfully it will not happen because folk in RL do not do those things
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| Quote ="EXPRO"May I say , without trying to belittle your post that you could not be further from the truth about the loyalties of Mrs Hetherington , JR and RA.
I can say from personal experience of the lady that there is no bigger fan of FC and no one who wants them to do well more than KH , thats a fact!!
with regards the finances I can assure you Mrs Hetherington is not in need of the cash !!
JR watches every match like a fan in a suit and i have personally witnessed him screaming at players and refs who make mistakes just like all fans do .
And Mr Agar I can tell you is a very very calm , mild mannered individual who does not let on field issues get to him, he motors forward in a very VERY professional manner but i can assure you recent events have hurt him very much but unlike many on here , HE does not give up !!
Do not underestimate how much the sucess of the club means to the people who matter, it does not seem like it does to you all because you dont see them on a weekly basis ..'"
Shame they can't match that passion with ability
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| Quote ="Robbo4"The major hurdle to that is the attitude of the fans who think that protests and staying away means you are being disloyal when in fact it couldn't be further from the truth.'"
I have two issues with the idea of a protest...
1. It will look a bit silly the whole time we are still in the top 8.
2. It will achieve nothing as it will not involve enough fans.
Staying away strikes me as a high-risk strategy. Do it in sufficient numbers to make a point and you risk the financial well-being of the club. It then becomes a case of playing chicken with the board and hoping they blink first.
I have no view on how loyal or otherwise fans who want to protest or stay away are.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"May I say , without trying to belittle your post that you could not be further from the truth about the loyalties of Mrs Hetherington , JR and RA.
I can say from personal experience of the lady that there is no bigger fan of FC and no one who wants them to do well more than KH , thats a fact!!
with regards the finances I can assure you Mrs Hetherington is not in need of the cash !!
JR watches every match like a fan in a suit and i have personally witnessed him screaming at players and refs who make mistakes just like all fans do .
And Mr Agar I can tell you is a very very calm , mild mannered individual who does not let on field issues get to him, he motors forward in a very VERY professional manner but i can assure you recent events have hurt him very much but unlike many on here , HE does not give up !!
Do not underestimate how much the sucess of the club means to the people who matter, it does not seem like it does to you all because you dont see them on a weekly basis ..'"
I do not care about professional I want to go watch my team play entertaining rugby and look competitive...So far for nearly 3 season I have not seen this...These so called passionate professional people just seem quite happy to rob my money every fecking season!!
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| Quote ="Kosh"I have two issues with the idea of a protest...
1. It will look a bit silly the whole time we are still in the top 8..'"
BINGO!!
I know lets have a protest at being a better side in a better position in SL than last year !! great idea
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| Quote ="EXPRO"BINGO!!
I know lets have a protest at being a better side in a better position in SL than last year !! great idea
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We are in a virtually identical position to last year and playing no better.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I do not care about professional I want to go watch my team play entertaining rugby and look competitive...So far for nearly 3 season I have not seen this...These so called passionate professional people just seem quite happy to rob my money every fecking season!!'"
Think carefully about how much money KH placed into limbo for so long to keep the club moving forwards!!
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