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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"[uAnd when Wigan get beat by Saints on friday [/ulets watch the negatives on the Wigan board. He's only been there 8 games.'"
Could you give me next weeks lottery numbers aswell? You lot went to Saints and won and are still now calling for your coach to be sacked a few games down the line
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| Not heard many calling for Morgans head, one or 2 fools maybe. If you get rid of Agar in the next few weeks with no one available would you be forced into giving Moore the job and then face the calls of cheap option again?
I'd have thought you best sticking with him til someone you really want becomes available then sack him.
Would it cost your club a fair bit of cash if a new man came in and wanted his own backroom staff and you had to pay Agar and Moore off?
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| Quote ="barham red"Not heard many calling for Morgans head, one or 2 fools maybe. If you get rid of Agar in the next few weeks with no one available would you be forced into giving Moore the job and then face the calls of cheap option again?'"
Awful when it takes a Rovers fan to quell the hysteria.
Last night was very poor but were more than capable of putting that behind us, winning Friday and giving W@nky a run for their money at our place.
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| Quote ="withernsea zebra"Last night was very poor but were more than capable of putting that behind us'"
Seem to have heard that before somewhere.... oh yes. Right after the Crusaders game.
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"HE STILL BEAT FC!!!!'"
But not many other sides on any kind of a regular basis.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Seem to have heard that before somewhere.... oh yes. Right after the Crusaders game.'"
Indeed that is the issue for me. We may well go on to beat Rovers and beat Warrington (or even run them close would do) but clearly the same problems remain, the inability to perform at anything resembling a consistent level.
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| Quote ="scarrie"Indeed that is the issue for me. We may well go on to beat Rovers and beat Warrington (or even run them close would do) but clearly the same problems remain, the inability to perform at anything resembling a consistent level.'"
If we win the next two games it would be unreasonable to sack Agar - a 70% record at this time of the season would be pretty good. However if we don't win those games then the losses against, with respect, the weaker teams in the league should cost him his job.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"If we win the next two games it would be unreasonable to sack Agar - a 70% record at this time of the season would be pretty good. However if we don't win those games then the losses against, with respect, the weaker teams in the league should cost him his job.'"
True, if he did have a 70% record he should stay this season but I'd still be looking for a replacement in 2011 as I'm not convinced he has the ability to improve the team and move us onto genuine challengers.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"If we win the next two games it would be unreasonable to sack Agar - a 70% record at this time of the season would be pretty good. However if we don't win those games then the losses against, with respect, the weaker teams in the league should cost him his job.'"
Seems fair.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"If we win the next two games it would be unreasonable to sack Agar - a 70% record at this time of the season would be pretty good. However if we don't win those games then the losses against, with respect, the weaker teams in the league should cost him his job.'"
Fair comment. The next four games are key, without a doubt. If we beat two of Rovers, Warrington and Leeds in the league and then Leeds in the Cup then the pressure will be off. However, aside from an unlikely top four place or a Cup win I'd still be saying goodbye to Agar at the end of the season. He is not sufficiently improving the team either collectively or individually.
Should we have a poor Easter and go out of the Cup then it's time to go.
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| I think a top 4 finish would get him a one year extension but I seriously hope we wont be offering anything too early. That would allow him to maybe beef up the back line a bit for next year. FWIW I cant see us finishing top 4 and think the likely (and cheapest) outcome will be no new offer to him for 2011.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Seem to have heard that before somewhere.... oh yes. Right after the Crusaders game.'"
were talking about nobby who was a GB captain, british lion , England international with umpteen cups and trophys to his name as both a player and coach versus Agar a frikkin centre from dewsbury or somewhere wanst it who allegedly won a kareoke competition in Batley when he was 9 years old ???
bit of a uneven balance in experience me thinks... nobby would have done just fine
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| Dennis Moore & Peter Sharp No 2 FACT!!!!!!!!!!! Best mates
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"Daryl Powell with James Webster as his Assistant.
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May as well have Len Casey assisted by Peter Walsh.
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| I would not sack Agar this season, pointless really as we won't get a top coach half way through a season. Let Agar see the season out but actively look now for a replacement for next season.
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Tim Sheens
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| 1 of des hasler, kearney, sheens or cartright would be good hasler would be number 1 though
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"May as well have Len Casey assisted by Peter Walsh.'"
What about Barrie McDermott assisted by Stanley Gene?
You have heard that here first too.
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| why is it when we lose a game its agar out
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| Quote ="Danny 2"why is it when we lose a game its agar out
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because once again a shocking performance against a poor poor team and once again we aint learned from our mistakes like we were supposed to after the crusaders BLIP. great stadium, great facilites, great youth set up, best team of the field in super league, talented bunch of players but a average coach holding us back. look at wigan and huddersfield now just proves what a top class coach can do. does that answer your question ?
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| blame the players
not everything is agars fault
why not blame Lauaki and Tickle for laying on
or fitzgibbon droping endless balls see non of these get a thread but agar does
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I would not sack Agar this season, pointless really as we won't get a top coach half way through a season. Let Agar see the season out but actively look now for a replacement for next season.
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Tim Sheens
Neil Henry
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Couldn't agree more. However, the chances of FC trying to get any of these is minimal if recent appointments are anything to go by. We are an A license club with a C category coach. I sent an e-mail into the Tell Us thing last year saying that with the salary cap evening up squad quality, the coach is a key differentiator and we should be looking at spending some of our profit on one because the way FC fans respond to a bit of success (eg shirt sales for Wembley 200icon_cool.gif would pay back the investment. The reply I got was that it was the players that were the differentiating factor and not the coach. Given our recent appointments in the coaching area, I'd be amazed if it wasn't Moore on a one and a half year deal.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I would not sack Agar this season, pointless really as we won't get a top coach half way through a season. Let Agar see the season out but actively look now for a replacement for next season.
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if we lose a few more games Agar's position would be untenable, and our gates would suffer. It would be better to put Moore in charge and relieve the pressure on the club.
that said if we do win both games this weekend i'd be willing to give him a bit more time, if he's able to turn it round from a shocking display to 2 big wins then i'll give him some respect...Can't see anything other than 2 defeats though however.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I would not sack Agar this season, pointless really as we won't get a top coach half way through a season. Let Agar see the season out but actively look now for a replacement for next season.
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Tim Sheens
Neil Henry
John Cartwright
Jason Taylor
Des Hasler
Jim Dymock
Stephen Kearney
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taylor or dymock would be the only 2 we'd have a chance of getting.
IMO the best person to get who hasn't got a job as a first grade coach is Andrew Johns, never going to happen though.
I hope we get hanley with offiah as his number 2. At least it would be entertaining!
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| I'd take Ian Millward, good coach IMO who likes to play good attacking rugby, would get the best out players like Hall and Washbrook.
Didnt do well at Wigan, but wasn't given the time IMO.
Look at the improvment of leigh, last season they finsihed near the bottom and should have been relegated, this season they are unbeaten in the league and have juts beaten Halifax by 30 plus points in their won ground.
I am sure that he will have a clause in his contract that would allow him to leave Leigh for a SL club.
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