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| In response to the original question, I don't rate Hall half as highly as most on here seem to. All this talk of him being a 'future international' and the like is pie in the sky. He still has a lot to prove, and, if I were pressed for my gut reaction at this point in time, I'd say he'll make a decent, middle of the road type SL player. Around the sort of calibre of Kirk Dixon (but in the centre, obviously).
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| Centre is a postion we definlety need to strengthen .Krisnan Inu was mentioned last season he would have being a brilliant signing .
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"In response to the original question, I don't rate Hall half as highly as most on here seem to. All this talk of him being a 'future international' and the like is pie in the sky. He still has a lot to prove, and, if I were pressed for my gut reaction at this point in time, I'd say he'll make a decent, middle of the road type SL player. Around the sort of calibre of Kirk Dixon (but in the centre, obviously).'"
Thats a fair comment , the thing Dixon and most others have over him is the defence area.
Hall is with ball in hand one of the best , most gifted players we have produced but when the opposition is rattling at him he looks like he has never played before , thats the ying and yang we have with Craig.... I cant see any ammount of coaching making his heart bigger
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| One of the lads here made the comment of Chev Walker when he gets back to full fitness, prior to Union he was one of the stand out Centrs in SL and for GB or has too much time passed since his days with Leeds??? but he was a top centre before union
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"One of the lads here made the comment of Chev Walker when he gets back to full fitness, '"
Were they holding a crack pipe at the time?
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| Wonderd how long it would take the Hall knockers to come out.....he isnt a winger and what i saw on the trys,he was hung out to dry a couple of times....i bet Briscoe has made more errors and cost us trys than what Hall has.
Halls defence has improved and when he is playing centre its usually spot on so far...we need to play our main attacking players and Hall is the only one that when he gets the ball will do something out of nothing...Hall for me all the time.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"icon_eek.gif
Were they holding a crack pipe at the time?'"
no we are based in west hull
but prior to Union he was a decent player and turned out some decent stints for GB too..
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| Quote ="fc baldy".
Halls defence has improved where ??
Hall is the only one that when he gets the ball will do something out of nothing.'"
and that was when this season ?
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"icon_lol.gif no we are based in west hull
but prior to Union he was a decent player and turned out some decent stints for GB too..'"
Prior to Union? So what, about five years ago?
Both Hall and Yeaman are superior to Walker.
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"and that was when this season ?'"
Try watching a game pal....it helps...have been impressed with Hall this season in the centres...on the wing,its different........but i love the way you start this thread because he has (in your eyes) a bad game at Wigan out of position.....what would we have done if we played Fitz at 6 and he had a stinker...drop him because he played bad out of position.
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"icon_lol.gif no we are based in west hull
but prior to Union he was a decent player and turned out some decent stints for GB too..'"
An when was this.....Walker was never GB class...how he played for them was beyond me.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"An when was this.....Walker was never GB class...how he played for them was beyond me.'"
We haven't produced a decent centre since Senior . 30 odd and still probably up there with Gleeson. Sad state of the English production line.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Try watching a game pal....it helps...have been impressed with Hall this season in the centres'"
season ticket holder mukker, seen every match but three for three years so can state with authority this has nothing to do with the Wigan game , but the wigan game highlighed his issues, you continue to watch with the B&W glasses whilst he ships more trys in, if he isnt a wiger then the point is we should be playing specialist wingers there
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| Quote ="fc baldy"An when was this.....Walker was never GB class...how he played for them was beyond me.'"
At Hudds he was GB man of the match and ran holes into them over and over and if it wasnt for Price on the wing dropping stuff all night we could have had a bag of trys via walker ??? what did u say about watching ??
the question was as you pointed out , is that the past ?? or could he recatch some of that old form!!
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| Quote ="B0NES"We haven't produced a decent centre since Senior . 30 odd and still probably up there with Gleeson. Sad state of the English production line.'"
and apart from them we have not had anyone else near apart from a season or two from Walker at Leeds... at one season from Yeaman...
Think the last of the mohicans could turn into a great though !! very young still
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| is it just me or does no one else rate whiting as a centre??
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"icon_rolleyes.gif season ticket holder mukker, seen every match but three for three years so can state with authority this has nothing to do with the Wigan game , but the wigan game highlighed his issues, you continue to watch with the B&W glasses whilst he ships more trys in, if he isnt a wiger then the point is we should be playing specialist wingers there'"
I've seen 4 of the 6 games so far this season, and I have to say that I didn't notice Hall shipping loads of tries in any of them. Could you be a little more specific about which tries in which games were solely down to Hall's defensive frailties?
As for your second point, I guess Agar is a little leery of dropping a young lad in on the wing. Which is understandable.
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| Quote ="fc88"is it just me or does no one else rate whiting as a centre??'"
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| Quote ="B0NES"If your going to shot from the hip ,At least look at the stats to back yourself up . It stops you looking a kn0b.'"
Must remember that line..
Sorry Kosh...back on topic
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"icon_lol.gif
Must remember that line..
Sorry Kosh...back on topic
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but remember when you use it it is "shoot from the hip not shot from the hip "
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| Quote ="Kosh"I've seen 4 of the 6 games so far this season, and I have to say that I didn't notice Hall shipping loads of tries in any of them. Could you be a little more specific about which tries in which games were solely down to Hall's defensive frailties?
As for your second point, I guess Agar is a little leery of dropping a young lad in on the wing. Which is understandable.'"
like we did with Hall??
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| I still think the problem is (and has been for some time), that the 'club' seem to fail at developing players beyond 'decent'
Both Yeaman and Hall are decent players, but they once had the potential to be great players. I am not knocking Agar here, but I do include him as part of the problem.
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| I think Yeamo and Hall are up there with the best centres in SL when our pack gets on top and when our halves give them decent ball.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I think Yeamo and Hall are up there with the best centres in SL when our pack gets on top and when our halves give them decent ball.'"
Defence is where they are undone
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"like we did with Hall??'"
Just because you've done something before doesn't automatically make it a good idea to do it again. In this case there are pros and cons, which Agar gets paid to assess and then come to a decision.
Still waiting for that list of tries BTW.
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