I'll reserve judgement until he plays more than 4 games.

He's played far more than four games for Hull FC.

Not at the reasonable standard he managed last night.

Not heard that before - excellent.

You should open your eyes. Idiot.

My eyes are open, and I can see reality.

One game, 2 points, well done, that's all.

Sorry Standee but you must be seeing a different Whiting to me. He rarely has a bad game in the Hull shirt and last season when he was playing he was one of the few who showed any pride. He didn't stand out last year for anything he did because lets be fair it was hard for anyone to stand out when there was no service being given.

The last part of your post is totally irrelevant. I never disputed the fact that we had won one game. What I said was, anyone that labels Whiting 'average' is an idiot. I stand by that.

You cannot class someone an idiot because they disagree with your view of a player!! Standee has his own opinion of Whiting and he is sticking with it, at least he has the good grace to admit that Whiting had a good game last night so he is not totally blinkered in his opinion.

And I will, happily, with good grace, admit to being wrong if he strings some performances like that together.

Likewise I will happily praise Agar for getting the help he needed by bringing Moore and Long in to the club, it takes a very humble manager to see their faults and recruit to rectify them.

Think he mentioned reasonable standard, which I think is understating how well Whiting played last night.

He actually said Whiting was 'reasonable', which is idiotic in itself. It's not about disagreeing with opinions, it's about ignoring all available evidence. Whiting has been consistently good when he's played for Hull, sometimes excellent. At no point has he been average. Only an idiot would think so.

Your opinion, which unlike you, I can respect.

but lets stick to name calling, it's your level.

Or we could stick to sending someone PMs asking if they'd care to 'arrange a time to insult you to your face'. Then swiftly changing the subject when they agree to do so.

Oh no, no chagning the subject, I'll meet anyone and talk about FC, share a pint, agree to disagree, but that's because I am a grown up.

Whiting had a decent game, we'll see what the next few weeks bring, I hope he proves I was wrong to label him "average", and if he does, I'll admit it.

More than Decent Martin....was very good last night....dont forget he has 2 bad injurys in 2 seasons and may now be getting confidence back....he has picked up his form after injury than Horne....when he plays a lot of matches he is very good but you have your opinion and i respect that....even though your wrong

I've always said that we are a better side when Whiting plays.He is a class act.

Was he more than decent, or did he do what is expected, like most other players?

Maybe 2 years of garbage has lowered people standards, maybe I am wrong, but I am flipping grateful to be discussing it after a solid performance instead of a shcoking defeat.

Yes, you were inviting me for a pint and a friendly chat. Of course.



No. He had an excellent game.



No, you won't. He's already proven you wrong and you refuse to admit it. I see no reason why that should change. FFS, you can't even bring yourself to say he was better than 'decent' or 'reasonable' last night.

I was simply asking if you'd be so ready to insult people if you weren't hiding behind an internet persona, you wouldnt.

He wasn't any more than decent, he played how I epxet all players to, similalrly I haven't been praising Berrigan, he did what he should have been, nothing more.

Strangely enough I expect people on £60k a year to earn it, whatever their field of employment.

You're back pedalling. As you were via the PMs. If you're going to act the big man, at least have the nads to follow it up. If not, don't bother.



Idiot.

Both he and Berrigan played very well. However much money they were on.

You've praised Long in another thread. He did what was expected of him too. He's probably one of our top earners and he was signed to organise our attacking play and kicking game. He did that last night, so shouldn't be worthy of any special praise by your logic.

If you want to fight someone then you're in the wrong place, in fact I think you'll find requesting such is against the AUP, you're obviously a testosterone fuelled kid with little ability to see others opinions, thats fine, I used to be one myself, but then I grew up.

Long was a class apart last night, as was Fitz.

Whiting played great last night as did the other 16 players, and credit to all of them and credit to Agar and his staff. I agree that Whiting lacks pace but as others have said when you can read the game as well has he does then pace isn't a problem. At the end of the day this is a team game, Whiting is just a cog in a machine. Lauaki however is the turbo charged V12 engine.

I'm not looking for a fight. I'm commenting how amusing it is that when you send me a PM asking:

'Care to arrange a time to insult me to my face? No, though not.'

...and I say that I would be happy to, you back down and make out like you were just inviting me for a pint and a discussion. If you're not looking for a fight yourself, don't send PMs of that ilk.



I don't disagree. But they both only did what they were paid to do. Like Whiting, who also had an excellent game. By refusing to admit that he was any more than 'decent' just because he gets paid well and you expect him to do a job, just makes you look ridiculous.

A mate of mine, a very big Leeds fan, text me towards the end of the game to say he thought he was outstanding and when was he out of contract