It's no good putting effort in on match day if you spend the rest of your time getting trousered.

That aside, he's not good enough any more. He could have been one of the best props we've ever had if he'd applied himself, but he's wasted his talent over a period of years. I'd not be sorry to see him go.

Thought his effort to get back for the early tackles in the set was a little wanting, myself. A lot of walking by him and Radford in particular.

You're obviously 'in the know' and have some background information. But people, on here especially, complain when there is a lack of effort and as soon as someone shows a bit they get shot down.

Id love to see Moa again net season, maybe thier paying Cusack off or an agreed setlement from both partys, who knows, but i for one hope hes still here next season.

He puts effort in I give you that but if we want to progress we need better players. He had one of his better games tonight but how many times did he break the line of the worst team in the league. For me I want a prop that can do this.

If some are happy to settle for mediocracy then lets get the contracts out for King Dowes Radders G Horne. For me we need a big shake up and that means putting together a pack that can dominate teams. Ours couldnt dominate a dalmation puppy.

That will be an embarrasment for Hull if they do considering they only just gave Cusack a year extension.

For me that decision was made too soon as I cant see the logic in giving cusack one year and ignoring an up and coming prop like Moa.

I really don't think Agar is going to get rid of Radders, G.Horne, Kingy ect ect i have a strong feeling that most of this deadwood will still be here next year and beyond.

G horne is out of contact and will be gone i reckon, heard a rumour Radders is retiring to concentrate on Coaching. Hopefully King will be told he can look for a club

Yes it would be an embarasment for Cusack and Hull, and true also they did the deal to early. Whiting hasnt even got another contract next season, but just saying they may be doing this with Cusack, its a big may like.

Doubt that very much he has only just signed a new deal.

I wish we had not because I'd prefer to keep Moa.

In no way am I suggesting that. Our props signed up for next year (so far) are Cusack, Dowes, O'Meley, Lauaki and King. We release King, Radford and Dowes (I have no idea why his name is cropping up as 'deadwood') and it leaves us with 3 props. That doesn't sound like a front row that can dominate.

Should be gone and probally will be, but i just have an incling that he'll still be here.

Yes i know but might be regreting it.

Same here.

I like Dowes and believe every team needs a played like him our problem is we have 3 of them with him Radders and Cusack.

Agree our props will be Cusack Dowes Omeley and Lauaki.

Would love to see big Sam stay but he prob wont due to quota. Personally I think we need to sign another good prop but agree we will prob still have King or Radders who are ok props but not good enough to make us a top side.

The thing is, you can't just offload players without bringing someone else in first, but, as Kath Hetherington was saying in the program, there is more competition for signings now and it will take time.

he cant stay though can he we allrwady have 6 quota sports for next year berro, o meely , fitz , manu , luaki , cusack

unless we can get someone off quota there will be no manu

some one tell me if im wrong because i really hope this guy stays

Jon Sharp's assistant 6 games into next season.

you want to bet

No because i hope thier not still here

Unfortunately, whatever happens the coaching deadwood will still be here

We could sign Moa up on a two year deal and loan him out for the first year with the option to recall if injuries bite. Second year will be when Manu has signed his new contract (new status in squad) and Cusak has gone. That way Moa would fit in to the squad nicely and would have had a years playing time under his belt.

Can't see this being possible as to send him out on loan we would have to sign him first, to sign he first we would need space on the quota. Thats my thinking anyway, Im sure someone will clarify if thats right.

We could maybe come to an agreement with a side to give him a one year deal then sign him next year but it messing about

...and thats the way it should be.

All fans like to think theyre the coach. Ours like to think they're the board.

We dont know what the situation really is though, Rule seems to think that we have the space.