Well maybe next season we will have the pacy no6 who could finish off some breaks. You say Connor at fullback is costing us but I don't think he would have the amount of assists he has at fullback if he was at stand off and we certainly wouldn't have that skill from fullback if shaul was playing there. Maybe Connor's future is at 6 but I just think the way BH wants his fullback to play then Connor is the man for him

Our record with Connor at stand-off was pretty mixed. Lost all three last year. About a 50% record in 2020 (some at stand-off, some at scrum half).

Anyway, Trueman will be our number six next season.

can he take Griffin with him

And that one line put down, brings the majority of true fans down on you, Josh got a dreadful injury in that semi final against Saints, he’d forced his way into consideration for the English squad, has played some superb footy since joining us, overall he has been a very good signing.

He’s comeback as others have from serious injury, looking to discover that form, these players are not machines, somethings just take time, and sometimes it doesn’t happen again, regardless if you actually ever attended a game, which I find pretty much improbable, you’d probably show a little more respect to one of our senior players who very rarely let us down, your remarks are crass, and ultimately disrespectful.

You should turn that radio off, and get out more, instead of this perennial lambasting of numerous players at our club, a club who you actually are supposed to support.

I'd like to see Connor moved to the halfs as defensively at FB he'll always be exposed for his lack of pace. Of course this is offset by his creative skills going forward but as COYH stated I think Trueman will be our six next season.

It's also looking likely that Gale will be our 7 next season. I just hope he gets a good run of games behind him and proves he can still play because so far mainly due to suspension his signing has not worked.

Think there is more mileage in playing Gale than Reynolds.
Gale will play against Wigan but he needs to be sensible and use his short kicking game which we still have not seen enough of to turn Wigan round with kicks into the in goal rather than dying with the ball in the opposition 10.

It hasn't worked for Reynolds which is a shame because I like the enthusiasm he brings.

I'd also like to see Gale take the line on a bit more. Whether or not he is capable remains to be seen. So far it's been catch and pass and his long kicking game has been average.

We needed to move Sneyd on and I thought Gale would be an upgrade. There's plenty left in the season to show his worth. Lets give him a chance before he's written off.

From what I can see, the only chance of us having a run at the playoffs is if Gale clicks for us. We know he has the ability, we just haven't seen it yet. I'm happy to give him every chance to find some form. But I'd also be thinking about signing someone for next year.

Rider you dont know which games or how many games i attend so dont assume something you dont know.
With regard to your comment that Griffin has been a good signing i disagree.He has had one good season in three years.If he had been an overseas player showing the form when he first came people on here would have been calling for him to go home like we have now with Reynolds.
The so called England call up was what Wane called a meeting squad not a playing squad.Griffin has never been named in an England playing squad nor will he ever be
On the other hand Jamie Shaul actually played for England but look at the criticism he is now taking despite the fact he is still our best overall full back despite his limited attacking link ability which we know Jake Connor has.
Griffin is limited as a centre and undoubtably will end up in the second row which i have said he should months ago yet once again the so called know it alls lambasted the idea.
If you watched the Saints game Griffin was poor,lazy and didnt seen interested in the second half.If you dont agree then go onto FC live and watch the highlights and Griffins efforts for Saints last two tries.
If thats the effort we can expect from Griffin then he should be dropped until his attitude changes.
I want players who give it all on the field.Brad Fash is not the most gifted player we have but he gives 100% for the shirt and thats what i want to see.
Irrespective of our so called true fans on here who like you dont agree with my posts i will say get used to it as when i see players not pulling their weight, not good enough or the coach in my opinion getting team selection and bench selection wrong i will continue to comment whether it gets your back up or not
Finally the only other player i have lambasted on here was Yeaman who got away with too much as he was a local lad.
Good player in his prime but stole a living from the club in his final years but i guess you lot will even disagree with that

How many times have England played in the last three years?

Absolute nonsense to say that Griffin has only had one good season. You can post it as much as you like, it's still .

To avoid any ambiguity. No sitting on the fence. Don't beat about the bush. Griffin. Do you rate him or not?

Love him
great pace,best defender in the team,immense workrate,a wingers dream centre and no doubt he will be selected in the GB squad for the world cup

I didn’t see the saints game, or the Toulouse game, I’m on the Turkish riviera at present.

Bonaire you can’t assume the mantle of chief executioner, then cry like a child when you are challenged, assuming “that lot” and “gangs” are against you.

And please continue to comment, it’s always a pleasure getting you to reveal more of your feelings and opinions, rather than the droning constant negativity, come on yu ull.

All good points but I doubt he'll be selected for the GB world cup squad

Genuine question

What do people think about Griffin's defensive efforts for the last two Saints tries?

Not good enough, but that full edge was a disaster

Agreed.

I don’t think any of them on that side can be proud of their efforts defending those tries?

Agreed it was poor defence all round not just one individual, is it down to poor prep in training, lack of continuity, or mentally switching off? personally don't think its laziness as in they can't be bothered more lack of or lazy thinking and focus. Whilst we have improved in areas we are still suffering from the bouts of loss of concentration and against teams like St's they punish you as they are switched on and focused for the full 80mins.

Wynne was defensively nieve in that game against Konrad - probably thinking he couldnt skip past him and could rush out. Hurrell is still a good centre, Wynne still learning defensively. Shaul was a mess

there was no effort at all.He was lazy but its Griffin and people would rather blame the others on that edge as you can see

It was poor from Griffin I don't think anyone will deny that but I wouldn't say lack of effort more a case clearly not 100% match fit, for me BH has to take some responsibility for that as the coach who picked the 17. Watching all the tries the first was poor defending and Griffin wasn't even on the field it was another case of players switching off and St's took full advantage of a quick restart and its not as though its something new with us as the Clark try in the Warrington game highlighted the issue massively. The last two tries were poorly defended altogether on that edge not just Griffin alone unless you honestly think Wynne and Shaul defended that effort well?

People are missing the point on Griffin in this case
I am not talking about his poor defense as in missing tackles, i am talking about not even bothering to chase back for Saints last two tries.
The Lomax try he was in motion yet didnt even bother to chase him back to the line and put pressure on him
The second he was just a lazy ass and just stood still
If someone like Wane had been in charge Griffin would be dropped after that lack of effort but this coach is likely to drop Connor Wynne and put Griffin back to left centre which would be a joke and what would it do to the confidence of Wynne knowing you have one average game and your position is given to Griffin who is now well past his sell by date

I get your point about Griffin not chasing Lomax and that is disappointing to see a player give up the chase but I just don’t think he is match fit for whatever reason. Including and playing him is down to the coach. I’d rather see players earn their spot back but that doesn’t seem to be happening currently. For me Wynne & Mitch are both ahead of Griiffin & Shaul or should based on performance

Which begs the question of why are you playing unfit players against Saints or anyone for that matter.

Use the ing reserves to get them match fit Hodgson

Naive

Have you tried imodium?