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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"Did he though?
Again, I don't know the facts here - but someone earlier claimed that the doctor was on the pitch and all that?'"
the game should have stopped, it's as simple as that.
We lost, we had it in our power to win and we didn't, nut muddynuts saying in the press that it's bigger than a Grand Final win is just hilarious, it wont keep KR afloat next season, it was two points which Ganson gifted a terrible KR side.
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| Quote ="Standee"despite the weight of evidence to suggest he's as bent as a piece of chicken wire?
dream all you want, you didn't win that game, Ganson gifted you it, and [uhe [ipotentially[/i denied somene vital medical attention in doing so.[/u'"
I do wish people would stop being so overdramatic.
Referees are encouraged to stop the game immediately if they consider that:
a) the player and/or those attending to him are potentially interfering with play - He/they were not
b) a serious injury has occurred - this usually means a head/neck/back injury and an immobile player - He may not have been immediately ambulant but he was sitting rather than laying prone and unconscious.
The correct decision was to play on
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| Quote ="Kosh"I am 100% certain that Ganson deliberately attempts to manipulate games through the decisions that he makes. He clearly feels that he should be an active participant rather than a simple facilitator. Whether or not he has a particular bias against one side or another is less clear - we could simply be unfortunate that his bent manipulations more often than not cause us grief - but I am sure that he intentionally intervenes to make things more 'interesting'.'"
Having been on the end of 'his bent manipulations' I'm 100% certain that your views perhaps could have a conflict of interests on your certainty Ganson deliberately attempts to manipulate games through the decisions that he makes. Mind you, by the same concept, my views on Ganson's decisions can be construed in the same (opposite) way.
By your post, am I right assuming that you genuinely believe that Ganson deliberately went on the Hull vendetta in the last 10 mins or so, just to make the game interesting?
Well if that’s the case, you can have Ganson and we’ll keep Thaler.
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| I'd like to add to all of this that having been an ex referee from the 1980's allbeit for only a couple of seasons.....when I was requested to act as a 'touch judge' for an important amateur game at the Circle (now The KC) the top "Hull referee" instructed me and the other touchy to 'let things go, because if we kept waving our flags.....it LOOKS POOR and makes me look incompetent'.
Needless to say, over the years and to this day, that SAME DIRECTIVE MUST be still being enforced for TV coverage.
However, as a referee your 'credability and impartialness' CANNOT be brought into question....With Steve Ganson this IS nearly every game.
The GUY is not a cheat.....JUST TOTALLY UP HIS OWN AR2E. He needs SUSPENDING.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I [ithink[/i (but obviously don't know because it's someone else) that the point MMJ is making is if it is a case like last night where the receiving player actually catches the ball in front of where the passing player is [iat the time the ball is caught[/i, not where he passed the ball from. The only way that could ever not be a forward pass is if the passing player, after throwing the ball, then either stops stone dead from running, or runs back towards his own line at a pace faster than the ball is travelling backwards. I'd be interested if there are any physicists on here who can tell us if this is even possible.
I can see how a TV replay can prove a forward pass in those scenarios, but I would, however, say that you can't go to the screen for those instances and not other forward passes IMO, it wouldn't be right.'"
That was the very point I thought I'd stated. The receiver of the ball being in front of the passer at the point of taking the ball.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"I still don't understand this argument, Latus scored on Martin's wing so his injury directly interfered with play. And what if Briscoe got an intercept and ran into Martin and his doctors? Ridiculous decision to play on.'"
As there so many "what ifs" in your post, how about this one.
What if in that set of six, rovers scored on the opposite wing, would have have been ok to carry on!
Of course Hull were disadvantaged, but players being treated whilst play continues is a part of our game. The only reason for stopping if it directly interferes with play or it's a head injury.
Too much being made of this, it's a non issue.
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| Wonder if Ganson has got the guts to tell PG he was wrong?
What do you think?
Hes not putting in a complaint hes just asking a simple question and I am sure thats not hard for him to do is it?
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| He obviously gave that pass the benefit of the doubt, you know like when Jordan Turner was nowhere near grounding the ball at the KC
1-1 I guess that makes it
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"He obviously gave that pass the benefit of the doubt, you know like when Jordan Turner was nowhere near grounding the ball at the KC
1-1 I guess that makes it'"
No Philb, thats 2-1 to you lot based on the fact the Fred Lindop robbed us in 1980.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"He obviously gave that pass the benefit of the doubt, you know like when Jordan Turner was nowhere near grounding the ball at the KC
1-1 I guess that makes it'"
Even by your usual low standards of intelligence, that comment is dredging the pits of fookwittery
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| Quote ="Monko"No Philb, thats 2-1 to you lot based on the fact the Fred Lindop robbed us in 1980.'"
You're forgetting Silverwoods' Non forward, forward pass down in the Hollow.
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| Sorry guys but surely the game was lost with the lack of completed sets, Rovers completed twice as much and as such had twice as much possession !!!
They scored twice as much in the last 40 with said possession!!
It's a bitter pill to swallow but in this game there were many bad calls, dobbos sin bin, knock on under FCs posts given back to FC but it's now done!!
Seem to remember FC scoring from a blatent forward pass against Leeds only a few weeks ago!!
But guess that was ok, FC ballsed it up and Rovers played to the hooter
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| Quote ="chukabutt"Seem to remember FC scoring from a blatent forward pass against Leeds only a few weeks ago!!
But guess that was ok, FC ballsed it up and Rovers played to the hooter'"
Which try was that?
Leeds first try was forward and the pass to Webb wasn't, but I don't remember a forward pass in Hulls tries
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| Quote ="Chris28"Which try was that?
Leeds first try was forward and the pass to Webb wasn't, but I don't remember a forward pass in Hulls tries'"
no point discussing with a moron, Dobson walked and quite rightly, professional fouls aplenty.
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"By your post, am I right assuming that you genuinely believe that Ganson deliberately went on the Hull vendetta in the last 10 mins or so, just to make the game interesting?'"
More or less, yes. Other possibilities exist but with much lower statistical probabilities.
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| Quote ="Standee"no point discussing with a moron, Dobson walked and quite rightly, professional fouls aplenty.'" i thought it was slightly harsh tbh. but understand why he was sent off
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| Quote ="Standee"no point discussing with a moron, Dobson walked and quite rightly, professional fouls aplenty.'"
Moron??
Ok If my opinion is not the same as yours then I'm a Moron, seen players laying on far more ( even 3rd players in the tackle ) all weekend and every week, by the book he should have walked but I feel he was hard done to, as a moron I also retract my twice the sets and possession statement
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| Quote ="jacko1"He certainly did keep checking as he is meant to when there is an injured player on the pitch just a shame he forgot about the rule when a club doctor goes on the pitch that play must be stopped..'"
You sure thats in the rules??
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| No doubt it was forward and a poor decision,but I keep asking the same question,what is the purpose of touch judges,match after match they run up and down the touchline and do nothing.It wasn't gansons call,he may have suspected it was forward and he looked at the touch judge for help and got nothing.Everybody is having a go at ganson,but the real culprit was the touch judge,he simply has not done his job.!
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| Quote ="alexwest"No doubt it was forward and a poor decision,but I keep asking the same question,what is the purpose of touch judges,match after match they run up and down the touchline and do nothing.It wasn't gansons call,he may have suspected it was forward and he looked at the touch judge for help and got nothing.Everybody is having a go at ganson,but the real culprit was the touch judge,he simply has not done his job.!'"
the thing that gets me is how unfit all of the officials are, they seem like they'd struggle to play bowls twice a week, let alone officiate a multi million pound sport. Russ Abbot had slimmer and fitter dancers than Ganson.
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| [jacko1 wrote
I'm notan expert on the rules by any means but in a pre-season summary/intro to rugby league (I think it was sky not BBC) it was definately stated that the Doctor can be identified by his red shirt (rather than the physio's orange ones) and as soon as he enters the field of play the game must be stopped. It stuck in my memory as I thought it was a ready made recipe for abuse.
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| Quote ="Standee"the thing that gets me is how unfit all of the officials are, they seem like they'd struggle to play bowls twice a week, let alone officiate a multi million pound sport. Russ Abbot had slimmer and fitter dancers than Ganson.'"
Now you are talking like a complete 2@.
Ganson was closer to Hodgson, when he went over, than any of our players
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| Quote ="alexwest"No doubt it was forward and a poor decision,but I keep asking the same question,what is the purpose of touch judges,match after match they run up and down the touchline and do nothing.It wasn't gansons call,he may have suspected it was forward and he looked at the touch judge for help and got nothing.Everybody is having a go at ganson,but[size=150[u the real culprit was the touch judge,he simply has not done his job[/u[/size.!'"
Ganaon may be public enemy no. 1 in Hull but for me the above is the true position.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"You sure thats in the rules??'"
On Field policy guidelines allow the doctor on the field when the game is in progress. If the doctor goes on when the game is in progress because of a situation, the game should be stopped, but the medics must try to attract the attention of the officials to stop the game. Bear in mind in this case that the stretcher and the full medical pack was also taken out onto the field; that should have been just cause to stop the game.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"I would sooner have not been awarded that try but had Michael Dobson on the park for the full 80 minutes.'"
So would I, we would have won the game then.
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